Warning about True North Outback Adventure Co’. formally core outfitters- NATHAN MCDONALD

If there's a MySpace I'm getting a lawyer.

 

A few "Greg Hart" options in FB but couldn't find the Ottawa version. Surprisingly no "Greg Hart" showed any "places lived" and "No workplaces to show. It is almost as if someone was making up FB personas?!?!?!?

 

This is him.

 

As you can see, HE has been an integral part of the business and not just a "consultant". He's basically doing the same thing as before. His posts call usually say "OUR" or "WE". Silent part owner @TNOACO?


Nathan even offers overland training, just like before.

 

Someone should start reaching out to suppliers about this. Last thing they need is their names drug through the mud of another business venture being ran by a known scammer.

 

I like how he says experienced lol. Maybe he should outline his experience in providing services to the 4WD crowd. LOL.

 

So like how to make bail then.

 

or how to pay back pennies on the dollar to get yourself out of fraud charges and then make another run with a separate business.

 

Okay. So I found something about for the name Greg Hart. There is a Greg Hart in the Ottawa area and someone I have ties to knows of him. Maybe it's not the right guy, who knows, but never the less it's a small world either way. The person I spoke with said they aren't close to him. All they could say was that he lives in the Ottawa River Valley, had some trouble when he was younger (not going further than that, sorry could be hearsay, I don't want that to effect this guy IRL if it's not him and who doesn't get into some sort of jam when they're younger), has some military experience, and they haven't heard or seen him for several years since then. I'm going to leave it at that. People can read into this as far as they want to but the name does exist locally and I know someone that knows of him, if that is the owner of Truenorth Outback which isn't certain.

 

It's clear to see that the type of person that would do business with Nathan could be of similar character. I wonder who approached who and had the idea?

 

Well i don't live in the Ottawa Valley i live right in the heart of Ottawa . and i have only lived here for about 11 years now , i lived in Nova Scotia Previously , I grew up moving around as my dad worked for Global Affairs , So whoever that is probably doesn't know me at all. I don't know why you guys seem to think i am not me .

 

Wonder if the trust issues have anything to do with the interactions with Nathan?

Consider when half these interactions occurred and how long people were strung along and trusted the guy.

For you to say you trust him enough to have him apart of your business either has people thinking you don’t exist and Nate made this all up as a way to not pay people back sooner. The other alternative is a huge questioning of you and your character. Shitty to judge someone on only one thing, however it is just the reality of it, especially in a business that relies on word of mouth and customer service in the community

 

Nathan send me 25$$$$$$.....At that speed, I will be retirement when he will have paid is due to me!!!!

25$$$ is kind of ridiculous !!!!! and every one who make business with Nate, knowing everything about his fraud, are ridiculous!!!! People who made Hitler(Kim Jong-un, or Trump) famous are at the same bad lever than the bad person! (sorry for my poor English, but when I read there someone who claim that Nate is not a bad person.... sorry man you are freaking me out)!!!!

 

Completely possible. I don't want to go into some of the odd details I heard on this person. They weren't good and it came from someone who wouldn't lie to me about them.

 

Don't apologize. I can guarantee when Nathan talks to the Crown prosecution about a deal he'll point out the partial restitution he made on your claim. "It's all I have, your honour"

 

The Greg Hart posted above does have former service listed in profile.

Wonder what the odds are of two Greg Hart living in the Ottawa area that both have military background.

 

I would never ask you to trust him , that bridge has been burnt long ago , This isn't his company , he doesn't make the rules . I haven't burned any bridges , not do i intend on doing that . I don't expect you to shop at my store , or buy all my things , i expect the logical , let me actually build my business so eventually one day you all will see that i , Greg Hart , am not such a bad dude after all. But it gets incredibly difficult to do that when some of you are going out of your way to spread the word that my company is a problem. I only have to trust enough to handle pictures , and posts . Yes business relying on word of mouth , buts its my word of mouth not his. I have all the risk with this business not him. If it loses , i lose , and i haven't done anything wrong here. You all can dislike Nathan , i don't blame you , but i haven't wronged you , yet you all have strung me up like i did.

Oh jesus Joe , open your eyes man ! Thats my profile , i live in the heart of Ottawa , not the valley. I have never lived in the valley .

 

you are supporting and working with someone that has done many people wrong in the very business that he was in.

Would you bring your vehicle to a shop that vouches for and continues to employ a shitty mechanic? Would you trust the hospital that supports and employs a shitty doctor? Would you give your money to a bank that employs a thief? As a business you expect customers to trust your company After you consulted and employ a former business owner that screwed over many people?

You have created a reputation simply by association.

As of right now, this thread is still about Nathan. It is a warning to anyone to not do business with him since former business dealings have left people out of pocket. Unfortunately his current business dealings are through your company. His practices of business and quality of work are all evident in this thread from stolen money to botched installs.

 

Well to be fair your analogy is flawed because you would never know in conventional day to day , you would never know if a ex con is employed at a bank , or a doctor is shitty , or a shitty mechanic , you wouldn't know until shit hits the fan , and to be fair nothing with regards to MY business has hit the fan. My business has not wronged you , regardless of who posts the pictures and ads . To say there are never any bad people working in the places you take for granted is just plain being naive, The world is full of shitty people and those shitty people still need jobs , or atleast do jobs ... probably not very well. but nonetheless they still work. You have judged my business before it has even had a chance to prove itself.

This thread stopped being only about Nathan about 5 pages ago , when someone said call my suppliers , and someone decided that my business name had to be in the thread title , and yet even a entire thread dedicated to my business.

All of you have judged me before giving me a chance to prove my business , regardless of the singular association i have . You don't have to like it , in fact you can even hate that part of my business , but that doesn't mean my business is his business , or that he has say or authority in my company. Every business has something people don't like , and you know what thats ok. I am ok if you don't like the fact that Nathan posts pictures and ads for me , i understand that. But that isn't my entire business .

 

But it is a part of your business. You keep talking about yourself and how you are in control yet you acknowledge that Nathan is a part of your business, which is the problem people keep pointing out to you. They don't want to deal with someone who wilfully associates his business with Nathan. In fact, because some people are out thousands of dollars from fraud committed by Nathan, they will actively discourage people from purchasing products from businesses associated with Nathan. You know what? That's their right as consumers.

The "trust me," factor is going to be low when quality truck parts often fetch over $1k and someone has already been burned by one of your employees/managers/contractors/associates. You have to know that. It's not about screwing you and, yes, Nathan needs to find gainful employment to support his family but all of that doesn't place any requirement on people to not tell their stories and the facts. Nathan is associated with your business. As long as Nathan is associated with your business, especially in public posts on social media, you're going to get this sort of response from the fairly tight offroad community. We may forgive mistakes but we don't forget people who commit crimes on others in the community.