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Warning...........Narcotics check point ahead!

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by surfsupl, Sep 17, 2010.

  1. Sep 18, 2010 at 11:27 PM
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    vinnyvavoom

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    OK, I agree it is good to catch people who are doing illegal things. But by allowing searches of everyone without a reason is a clear infringement on their right to lead a free life. It is not illegal to drive down the road and I take it personal when I am stopped without reason. I am a law abiding citizen and should not have my life stopped and turned over because I decided to go for a ride in a "free" country. Read the book, 1984, that may help you understand. No thanks people, every right you give up leads to less freedom.
     
  2. Sep 19, 2010 at 12:08 AM
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    I understand you want all your freedom, but would you rather they let the drug lords run free, and have your children run into them one day? maybe end up working for them?

    if your a normal person on a normal drive, you'd have nothing to worry about, so you can continue on, especially since the main road was not stopped... the thing is, they didn't stop traffic on a busy interstate, they tricked the drug dealers into driving into a check site.. I say, nice work popo!
     
  3. Sep 19, 2010 at 7:55 AM
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    The only checkpoints I ever see are DUI checkpoints on the Long Island Expressway
     
  4. Sep 19, 2010 at 8:04 AM
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    brutalguyracing

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    same here and at all the bridges and tunnels...
    ny has much bigger problems to worry about then some kids bringing a dime bag into the city
     
  5. Sep 19, 2010 at 8:24 AM
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    I think most people tend to forget the "bigger problems" stem from the "small ones" that some people here are defending.
     
  6. Sep 19, 2010 at 8:54 AM
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    AndrewFalk

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    I don't smoke...I don't do any type of drugs. I think this is ridiculous. I don't want to be stopped on any roadway for no reason at all...this seems like it would just cause a huge traffic jam.
     
  7. Sep 19, 2010 at 10:56 AM
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    I am all for taking on those risks in return for my freedoms...lets keep it American. Additionally, it does not seem to me like making exceptions to the 4th amendment by forcing tax paying citizens into unconstitutional searches and seizures is doing any good any way, as there are still drug lords running free.

    Don't like America and its constitution, than move to a different country.
     
  8. Sep 20, 2010 at 3:08 PM
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    Complete overreach. These kind of checkpoints have nothing to do with stopping "drug lords". They are neo-prohibitionist ideology run amok, plain and simple. The same people who dropped BAC from .15 to .12 to .10 to .08 (and they are working on going lower) based not on science, but on a worldview. We have very serious drug problems in this country. No argument there. But this is not the way to approach them. They're largely ineffective and a waste of precious taxpayer dollars.
     
  9. Sep 20, 2010 at 3:11 PM
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    The "slippery slope" is a fallacy that completely ignores the effects of a conscious decision to embrace responsible choice.
     
  10. Sep 20, 2010 at 4:54 PM
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    When I was 18 I got hassled by cops everyday, they were very young themselves 25-30's and trying to f*ck all the young girls I was dating. A few of them got caught and are no longer LEO's, one of the worst is running for sheriff & looks like will win may have already I don't get down there much anymore. He was so bad he got a nickname for the what the girls had to do to get out of an arrest(see below).

    My point is believing that a LEO would never abuse his power is just as ignorant as thinking they all do, the world is not that black/white, many shades of gray. I was searched many times and never asked for permission or to sign any waiver, one time I got brave and asked why I got pulled over after a pause and a big grin officer Rob stated "shifting erratically". I know that most cops are good guys, but like all people some are total d*ck heads.

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  11. Sep 20, 2010 at 5:07 PM
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    Sounds like your human an capable of making mistakes which could then violate some ones rights. That a lot of power for one person to wield on a hunch.
     
  12. Sep 20, 2010 at 5:10 PM
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  13. Sep 20, 2010 at 7:44 PM
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    Well said & very true, business as usual isn't getting the job done.
     
  14. Sep 20, 2010 at 7:54 PM
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    If you think that these are set up to stop the casual weed smoker then you are wrong. They are after bigger and better things. Like I've said before, I've been doing this in Houston for almost 16 years. Am I looking for small amounts of weed? Heck no, but if I come across is I am going to do my job.

    You say this is ineffective. I say otherwise. I've been part of THOUSANDS of narcotics arrests, focusing primarily on cocaine....but coming across my fair share of marijuana. In addition to arresting drug dealers/smugglers, I've arrested police officers, teachers, school bus drivers, tons of truck drivers, doctors and nurses....many who have lost their jobs/license. Ineffective would be to let them continue to use their drugs with no consequences and continue to patrol our streets, teach our kids, drive 18 wheelers, and take care of us or our loved ones.

    That's not even mentioning the hundreds of thousands of dollars I've seized just this year alone, vehicles I've seized, guns I've confiscated, fugitives caught, and narcotics seized. Ineffective....don't think so
     
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    Actually I'm married, a college graduate, gainfully employed, a homeowner and taxpayer who gives back to my community through volunteer service. So much for your antiquated stereotypes.
     
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