Warped rotors and drums every 15-20k miles ISSUE FINALLY DISCOVERED!!!!!!!

I'm not (suspicious of the brakes needing to bed in theory). And there are literally thousands of people at the dealer every single day complaining on some type of brake noise/performance issue that are told that is normal.

Most is due to improper wheel lug torque, as everyone almost exclusively uses impacts tools without the proper experience to gauge when the right amount of torque has been reached.

I replaced my front brakes at 50k miles, (bad driver maybe) and 15k miles later all is performing as designed. And yes, I did bed them. I used the method described on post #60 and have fo many years.
https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...very-15-20k-miles.725871/page-3#post-25864432

A lot of new vehicles are test drove at the factory grounds and at dealer, some while test driving by customers, so there maybe some additional beak-in going on there.

But in a nutshell, I'm a fan of bedding whether it really works or is just a placebo for peace of mind.

Peace

 

I was going to bring this up also. I dont disagree with the bedding, I do it on my own vehicles, its free, no cost. I wonder if independent shops bed in the brakes before they turn the cars back to customers after a brake job? This could be an unknown huge numbers of of cars that dont get the bedding in procedure.

 

We never did and I don’t do it on any of my own Vehicles but the next time I do brakes on anything I’m going to test it and see if I can feel any difference before and after

 

UPDATE: IT WAS THE REAR AXLE!!! I WASN'T CRAZY!!! - So, I called Toyota Corporate and they started a file on this. I related everything above and mentioned that I had been talking to the dealership about the defective rear axles . They told me to go to a different dealership and get a second opinion/see if they could diagnose the problem, so I set one for today at 7:00 am at the dealership I bought the truck from 3 years ago that's 50 miles away. They had it in service for 4.5 hours and the advisor (he was a new hire) came back and told me exactly what I expected: "Yes your drums and rotors are warped beyond turning and we don't know why." So I asked to speak to the tech and he tells me that there's excessive heat on the rear drums. So I retold him my whole story and asked, "Could you please tell me, since y'all keep blaming my driving habits, what I could possibly be doing/how I could be driving so badly that I'm causing this to happen? Seriously, I'm not asking a rhetorical question here and I'm not trying to be sarcastic... I want to know because I'm tired of dropping $1000 on brakes every 8 months!" They told me they didn't know, and asked me a bunch of questions... "Are you a 2 footer? etc." I asked him about the rear axle issue and he tells me that there was a service bulletin but for the 2017-19 model years, not my truck. So I kept at it until they agreed to put my truck back up and measure, at their suggestion, the axle flange because it would show them if the axle was bent. So their head tech then additionally calls corporate and opens a tech case/ticket on my truck and spends 2.5 more hours looking at my truck with Toyota on the phone... They finally come in at 2:30 and tell me: "You were right! We took everything apart and measured everything and the rear axle is bent. We apologize." So, to make a long story short, I am waiting on Toyota corporate for the OK as the dealership has put in a request to get the rear axle replaced and all the brake work done at no cost to me! I KNEW IT!!!!! No performance brake parts needed... Not my driving habits... Just a defective part that made it past quality control and all I needed was someone who would finally listen!

 

UPDATE: IT WAS THE REAR AXLE!!! I WASN'T CRAZY!!! - So, I called Toyota Corporate and they started a file on this. I related everything above and mentioned that I had been talking to the dealership about the defective rear axles . They told me to go to a different dealership and get a second opinion/see if they could diagnose the problem, so I set one for today at 7:00 am at the dealership I bought the truck from 3 years ago that's 50 miles away. They had it in service for 4.5 hours and the advisor (he was a new hire) came back and told me exactly what I expected: "Yes your drums and rotors are warped beyond turning and we don't know why." So I asked to speak to the tech and he tells me that there's excessive heat on the rear drums. So I retold him my whole story and asked, "Could you please tell me, since y'all keep blaming my driving habits, what I could possibly be doing/how I could be driving so badly that I'm causing this to happen? Seriously, I'm not asking a rhetorical question here and I'm not trying to be sarcastic... I want to know because I'm tired of dropping $1000 on brakes every 8 months!" They told me they didn't know, and asked me a bunch of questions... "Are you a 2 footer? etc." I asked him about the rear axle issue and he tells me that there was a service bulletin but for the 2017-19 model years, not my truck. So I kept at it until they agreed to put my truck back up and measure, at their suggestion, the axle flange because it would show them if the axle was bent. So their head tech then additionally calls corporate and opens a tech case/ticket on my truck and spends 2.5 more hours looking at my truck with Toyota on the phone... They finally come in at 2:30 and tell me: "You were right! We took everything apart and measured everything and the rear axle is bent. We apologize." So, to make a long story short, I am waiting on Toyota corporate for the OK as the dealership has put in a request to get the rear axle replaced and all the brake work done at no cost to me! I KNEW IT!!!!! No performance brake parts needed... Not my driving habits... Just a defective part that made it past quality control and all I needed was someone who would finally listen!

 

UPDATE: IT WAS THE REAR AXLE!!! I WASN'T CRAZY!!! - So, I called Toyota Corporate and they started a file on this. I related everything above and mentioned that I had been talking to the dealership about the defective rear axles . They told me to go to a different dealership and get a second opinion/see if they could diagnose the problem, so I set one for today at 7:00 am at the dealership I bought the truck from 3 years ago that's 50 miles away. They had it in service for 4.5 hours and the advisor (he was a new hire) came back and told me exactly what I expected: "Yes your drums and rotors are warped beyond turning and we don't know why." So I asked to speak to the tech and he tells me that there's excessive heat on the rear drums. So I retold him my whole story and asked, "Could you please tell me, since y'all keep blaming my driving habits, what I could possibly be doing/how I could be driving so badly that I'm causing this to happen? Seriously, I'm not asking a rhetorical question here and I'm not trying to be sarcastic... I want to know because I'm tired of dropping $1000 on brakes every 8 months!" They told me they didn't know, and asked me a bunch of questions... "Are you a 2 footer? etc." I asked him about the rear axle issue and he tells me that there was a service bulletin but for the 2017-19 model years, not my truck. So I kept at it until they agreed to put my truck back up and measure, at their suggestion, the axle flange because it would show them if the axle was bent. So their head tech then additionally calls corporate and opens a tech case/ticket on my truck and spends 2.5 more hours looking at my truck with Toyota on the phone... They finally come in at 2:30 and tell me: "You were right! We took everything apart and measured everything and the rear axle is bent. We apologize." So, to make a long story short, I am waiting on Toyota corporate for the OK as the dealership has put in a request to get the rear axle replaced and all the brake work done at no cost to me! I KNEW IT!!!!! No performance brake parts needed... Not my driving habits... Just a defective part that made it past quality control and all I needed was someone who would finally listen!

 

UPDATE: IT WAS THE REAR AXLE!!! I WASN'T CRAZY!!! - So, I called Toyota Corporate and they started a file on this. I related everything above and mentioned that I had been talking to the dealership about the defective rear axles . They told me to go to a different dealership and get a second opinion/see if they could diagnose the problem, so I set one for today at 7:00 am at the dealership I bought the truck from 3 years ago that's 50 miles away. They had it in service for 4.5 hours and the advisor (he was a new hire) came back and told me exactly what I expected: "Yes your drums and rotors are warped beyond turning and we don't know why." So I asked to speak to the tech and he tells me that there's excessive heat on the rear drums. So I retold him my whole story and asked, "Could you please tell me, since y'all keep blaming my driving habits, what I could possibly be doing/how I could be driving so badly that I'm causing this to happen? Seriously, I'm not asking a rhetorical question here and I'm not trying to be sarcastic... I want to know because I'm tired of dropping $1000 on brakes every 8 months!" They told me they didn't know, and asked me a bunch of questions... "Are you a 2 footer? etc." I asked him about the rear axle issue and he tells me that there was a service bulletin but for the 2017-19 model years, not my truck. So I kept at it until they agreed to put my truck back up and measure, at their suggestion, the axle flange because it would show them if the axle was bent. So their head tech then additionally calls corporate and opens a tech case/ticket on my truck and spends 2.5 more hours looking at my truck with Toyota on the phone... They finally come in at 2:30 and tell me: "You were right! We took everything apart and measured everything and the rear axle is bent. We apologize." So, to make a long story short, I am waiting on Toyota corporate for the OK as the dealership has put in a request to get the rear axle replaced and all the brake work done at no cost to me! I KNEW IT!!!!! No performance brake parts needed... Not my driving habits... Just a defective part that made it past quality control and all I needed was someone who would finally listen!

 

UPDATE: IT WAS THE REAR AXLE!!! I WASN'T CRAZY!!! - So, I called Toyota Corporate and they started a file on this. I related everything above and mentioned that I had been talking to the dealership about the defective rear axles . They told me to go to a different dealership and get a second opinion/see if they could diagnose the problem, so I set one for today at 7:00 am at the dealership I bought the truck from 3 years ago that's 50 miles away. They had it in service for 4.5 hours and the advisor (he was a new hire) came back and told me exactly what I expected: "Yes your drums and rotors are warped beyond turning and we don't know why." So I asked to speak to the tech and he tells me that there's excessive heat on the rear drums. So I retold him my whole story and asked, "Could you please tell me, since y'all keep blaming my driving habits, what I could possibly be doing/how I could be driving so badly that I'm causing this to happen? Seriously, I'm not asking a rhetorical question here and I'm not trying to be sarcastic... I want to know because I'm tired of dropping $1000 on brakes every 8 months!" They told me they didn't know, and asked me a bunch of questions... "Are you a 2 footer? etc." I asked him about the rear axle issue and he tells me that there was a service bulletin but for the 2017-19 model years, not my truck. So I kept at it until they agreed to put my truck back up and measure, at their suggestion, the axle flange because it would show them if the axle was bent. So their head tech then additionally calls corporate and opens a tech case/ticket on my truck and spends 2.5 more hours looking at my truck with Toyota on the phone... They finally come in at 2:30 and tell me: "You were right! We took everything apart and measured everything and the rear axle is bent. We apologize." So, to make a long story short, I am waiting on Toyota corporate for the OK as the dealership has put in a request to get the rear axle replaced and all the brake work done at no cost to me! I KNEW IT!!!!! No performance brake parts needed... Not my driving habits... Just a defective part that made it past quality control and all I needed was someone who would finally listen!

 

UPDATE: IT WAS THE REAR AXLE!!! I WASN'T CRAZY!!! - So, I called Toyota Corporate and they started a file on this. I related everything above and mentioned that I had been talking to the dealership about the defective rear axles . They told me to go to a different dealership and get a second opinion/see if they could diagnose the problem, so I set one for today at 7:00 am at the dealership I bought the truck from 3 years ago that's 50 miles away. They had it in service for 4.5 hours and the advisor (he was a new hire) came back and told me exactly what I expected: "Yes your drums and rotors are warped beyond turning and we don't know why." So I asked to speak to the tech and he tells me that there's excessive heat on the rear drums. So I retold him my whole story and asked, "Could you please tell me, since y'all keep blaming my driving habits, what I could possibly be doing/how I could be driving so badly that I'm causing this to happen? Seriously, I'm not asking a rhetorical question here and I'm not trying to be sarcastic... I want to know because I'm tired of dropping $1000 on brakes every 8 months!" They told me they didn't know, and asked me a bunch of questions... "Are you a 2 footer? etc." I asked him about the rear axle issue and he tells me that there was a service bulletin but for the 2017-19 model years, not my truck. So I kept at it until they agreed to put my truck back up and measure, at their suggestion, the axle flange because it would show them if the axle was bent. So their head tech then additionally calls corporate and opens a tech case/ticket on my truck and spends 2.5 more hours looking at my truck with Toyota on the phone... They finally come in at 2:30 and tell me: "You were right! We took everything apart and measured everything and the rear axle is bent. We apologize." So, to make a long story short, I am waiting on Toyota corporate for the OK as the dealership has put in a request to get the rear axle replaced and all the brake work done at no cost to me! I KNEW IT!!!!! No performance brake parts needed... Not my driving habits... Just a defective part that made it past quality control and all I needed was someone who would finally listen!

 

UPDATE: IT WAS THE REAR AXLE!!! I WASN'T CRAZY!!! - So, I called Toyota Corporate and they started a file on this. I related everything above and mentioned that I had been talking to the dealership about the defective rear axles . They told me to go to a different dealership and get a second opinion/see if they could diagnose the problem, so I set one for today at 7:00 am at the dealership I bought the truck from 3 years ago that's 50 miles away. They had it in service for 4.5 hours and the advisor (he was a new hire) came back and told me exactly what I expected: "Yes your drums and rotors are warped beyond turning and we don't know why." So I asked to speak to the tech and he tells me that there's excessive heat on the rear drums. So I retold him my whole story and asked, "Could you please tell me, since y'all keep blaming my driving habits, what I could possibly be doing/how I could be driving so badly that I'm causing this to happen? Seriously, I'm not asking a rhetorical question here and I'm not trying to be sarcastic... I want to know because I'm tired of dropping $1000 on brakes every 8 months!" They told me they didn't know, and asked me a bunch of questions... "Are you a 2 footer? etc." I asked him about the rear axle issue and he tells me that there was a service bulletin but for the 2017-19 model years, not my truck. So I kept at it until they agreed to put my truck back up and measure, at their suggestion, the axle flange because it would show them if the axle was bent. So their head tech then additionally calls corporate and opens a tech case/ticket on my truck and spends 2.5 more hours looking at my truck with Toyota on the phone... They finally come in at 2:30 and tell me: "You were right! We took everything apart and measured everything and the rear axle is bent. We apologize." So, to make a long story short, I am waiting on Toyota corporate for the OK as the dealership has put in a request to get the rear axle replaced and all the brake work done at no cost to me! I KNEW IT!!!!! No performance brake parts needed... Not my driving habits... Just a defective part that made it past quality control and all I needed was someone who would finally listen!

 

Great news!


Might have to repeat it one more time though.

 

I apologize... I just wanted to let everyone know who commented or responded that it is getting resolved, especially if anyone else is having the same problem.
If all I had to do was do the update on my original, then that's my bad. Thank you for your input.

 

No need to apologize sir, I was just screwing with you.

Im glad you got it sorted it out though. Dealerships could be a huge pain from my experience.

 

Did I mention that they found out what it was?

 

DO TELL!!!

 

I don't recall....

 

I apologize... I just wanted to let everyone know who commented or responded that it is getting resolved, especially if anyone else is having the same problem.
If all I had to do was do the update on my original, then that's my bad. Thank you for your input.

 

Good on you! Bet that's a relief.