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weird cold weather operation problem

Discussion in '4 Cylinder' started by Sigray, Feb 4, 2013.

  1. Feb 4, 2013 at 12:04 PM
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    Sigray

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    Hello im having a problem with my 09 tacoma 4 cyl. Hopefully this has hapenned to someone else. When outside air temperture is below -25 and truck has reached normal running temperature, on idle truck starts to run rough, knocks and vibrates so much that the steering wheel and dash shakes. But as soon as you bring up idle speed a bit everything goes away.
     
  2. Feb 4, 2013 at 12:14 PM
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    it's call being -25 outside vehicles don't like extreme cold unless you got a block heater battery heater all that stuff and most vehicles don't have the proper cold weather fluids put in them just my .02 hope you get in figured out maybe somebody on here may have had the same shit happen to them good luck let us know
     
  3. Feb 4, 2013 at 12:23 PM
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    Thanks but im aware of cold weather influence on cars i owed 5 cars before this one and never experienced this before. But with that being said its plugged in and im running 0w30 synthetic
     
  4. Feb 4, 2013 at 12:29 PM
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    than maybe its the tranny I had a 05 f150 when i went to south dakota in january it got -42 out and I had trouble getting it to go into gear than once it got into drive it wasn't happy kinda bucked like what your describing got back to colorado and all was fine
     
  5. Apr 23, 2013 at 10:04 PM
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    It's called piston slap. The piston inside the engine has shrunk and until the engine warms up and the pistons expand it will cause vibration sound and vibration through out the vehicle. I have the same problem but not nearly that bad. Mine will only cause vibration in the pedal. Did you ever get it checked out? And if so what did they say?
     
  6. Apr 24, 2013 at 5:32 PM
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    He's saying it happens when the truck is at operating temperature. At least he did two months ago. As for your 4.0L, if it's anything like my 4.0 was, when it idles warm at 700 rpm it's going to shake a bit, period.

    Here's my guess-

    For some reason Toyota wants the 2.7L to idle at 650 rpm when it's fully warmed up, probably to try to save a wee bit of fuel. My engine doesn't like that speed. When spinning that slowly I can just start to feel a wee bit of engine shake, and yes it's more pronounced when cold. If the idle is anything over 670 rpm for whatever reason (foot on the brake, not quite warmed up, etc), it's smooth as silk. Also it goes away whenever the defrost or AC is on as the engine idles at 800 rpm running the compressor; also since the time it takes for the ECU to actually drop from 700ish to 650 rpm is usually around 10 seconds, the compressor cycling won't let it happen.

    Add in -25C/-13F motor mounts where the rubber is turned to slate and all that vibration gets to talk to you.

    Doesn't the oil cap say 0w20? Sure, 0w30 or 5w30 won't hurt it (2005s recommend 5w30), but if it's going to be that far below zero why not use the thinner stuff?
     
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