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Weird oil filter location on 4.0 V6

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Utard, Jul 8, 2012.

  1. Jul 8, 2012 at 9:21 AM
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    So I have a two part question about the filters on the 4.0 V6 engines. I have changed filters on 1-2-3-4-6-8 cylinder engines. But never did a engine oil filter on a remote spot.

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    Because it is remote is there anything special you need to do to the filter before install?

    I ask this because on tractor hydro systems the filters on remotes are threads up and you need to fill them before install. Obviously with the taco the filter is thread down so you can not fill it up. But should you at least get a little oil in to wet the media before installing?

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    Because the oil filter is so easy to get to does any one replace filter twice a often as the oil?

    I ask this because I used to do a lot of maintenance on smaller engines used in the golf course industry. The vast majority of the manufactures suggested to change the filter twice as much as the oil. For instance oil was changed every 100 hours and the oil filter every 50 hours.

    How long to wait for the filter to drain before removing to avoid mess?





    And I am not a believer in the oil filters that say they are good for longer. To me that just seems asinine. If a filter can last longer that means it is not filtering as well for the smaller particles.
     
  2. Jul 8, 2012 at 9:24 AM
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  3. Jul 8, 2012 at 9:33 AM
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    Thanks again for more useless information from the whip.

    Its better to over think than be useless.
     
  4. Jul 8, 2012 at 9:36 AM
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    i took a piece of airhose and cut it to about 5 feet in length..Place one end over nipple on bottom of oil filter "housing", other end down thru the engine bay and into the drain pan on the floor. Unscrew oil filter, let oil drain. No mess.. Easy huh?

    Oil filters= cheap insurance. Even a $13 filter is cheaper then a new motor/rebuild.

    The only thing I suggest you do on a new filter is to take some oil(dont matter dirty or clean) and run it around the rubber gasket on the new filter before install. Makes it a ton easier to remove on the next change.
     
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    Thanks.

    That's a good idea. Was that Brake air hose or the type for air tools?
     
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    i have worked at an oil shop for almost 5 years now, all you need to do is remove drain cap, use a cup to catch the oil, unthread the filter, take some tranny oil and lubricate the o-ring on the new filter, apply filter, then done :D
     
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    Certain Cadillac engines have been similar to this for years. No need to worry. Just change the filter as normal(adding oil to gasket like stated above) and everything will be cool! BTW-Genuine Toyota Oil filters can be found in bulk and cheaper on sites like Amazon. Dont skimp on the filters or oil. Your truck will love you!
     
  8. Jul 8, 2012 at 10:22 AM
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    All this. However, I just stick a plastic cup underneath the drainage "nipple"and let it catch the draining oil. Easy.
     
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    Change your filter when you change your oil. No need to fill with oil. Just clean the mating surface and lube the new gasket with whatever lube you have on hand. I sometimes just use dirty oil, not a big deal.

    I find I usually need to stuff a wire down the hole because it's usually blocked with dirt, even though I clean it down with solvent after every oil change.

    Take fuel line, any line with an ID matching that of the nipple and you can run it down to where you can catch the oil if you want, then stuff a screw or bolt in the end to cap it off if you're gonna leave the hose attached.

    I just stuff a bottle between the fan shroud and radiator hose. I usually just loosen up the filter, then sometimes I'll punch a hole through the top while it's kinda sitting up there. Helps it drain quicker.

    The filters filter to the engineers spec, whatever that may be. Certainly seems to be working fine.

    If you don't like the size and capacity of the OEM filter... a Napa gold 1516 will mount just fine and is taller than the oem equivalent napa 1348. Not sure how it compares in size compared to the OEM though as I've never bought one. edit: nvm looks like a 1516 is about the same size as a OEM.
     
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    the oil filter location on the 4.0 is the best thing toyota did to the tacoma period. i dont miss hot oil in my armpit one bit.
     
  11. Jul 8, 2012 at 10:27 AM
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    And more dirt gets through.
     
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    It wouldn't be TW if it didn't.
     
  13. Jul 8, 2012 at 10:39 AM
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    So do people still change the oil every 6 months if you don't put enough miles on it?
     
  14. Jul 8, 2012 at 10:40 AM
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    I don't. I wait till I put 5k miles on it no matter how long that takes (usually around 8 months).
     
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    Currently I have had 4 oil changes on 5000km or 3100 miles. I was told the oil breaks down and what not.
     
  16. Jul 8, 2012 at 10:48 AM
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    It does but not that quickly.
     
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    maybe more so where you're at, Im assuming it gets quite cold where you live. Down here it does hit close to 0* F, but I always let the truck fully warm up which keeps the condensation out of the oil.
     
  18. Jul 8, 2012 at 10:51 AM
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    bypass filter kit if you're not happy with stock filter capabilities
     
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    Do you enjoy keeping the arabs rich????

    At that rate, you gonna wear out threads in the oil pan before you hit 100k miles
     
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