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Westin bull bar thoughts?

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas' started by TinkTac, Aug 22, 2010.

  1. Aug 22, 2010 at 7:05 PM
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    Just got my '02 Taco back from the dealer after a full frame replacement. (North East states recall.) I was thinking about putting a Westin Bull bar on it as a welcome back(8 weeks it sat...) Was wondering if anyone had any thoughts. Does it mount to the frame? I can't seem to find any info on where it's going to mount and how sturdy/stable it's going to be. everyone seems to like it though...
     
  2. Aug 22, 2010 at 7:08 PM
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    who is everyone because here the overwhelming consensus is no to bull bars...

    however if you like them by all means get one

    they mount on the frame rail ends where your tow hooks are...using the same 2 bolts on each side
     
  3. Aug 22, 2010 at 7:17 PM
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    So... No to bull bars? Why? Brush guards? I live in boston, Brush seems to be few and far between except for those who fall off the highway. I want something somewhat mimialist to maybe mount some fog lights and protect against the errant soccer moms in giant lexus' and suburbans.
     
  4. Aug 22, 2010 at 7:19 PM
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    As long as you understand that they are made of cheap thin metal...and wont stand up to much more than a shopping cart and need a place for lights then youre good
     
  5. Aug 22, 2010 at 7:24 PM
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    Yet still no recommendations... 2 and a half inch stainless tubing seems like it may stand up to a bit more than a shopping cart...maybe i miss spoke, A westin grille guard? 33-0905
     
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    if you live in boston, dont forget bull bar adds a few inches to your truck. not saying that you cant park, but people around you wont take that bar into account
     
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    Thats what I'm hoping for, I parallel parked in Harvard Square for more than a year. I'm hoping to save some paint on my plastic... Anyone know why the consensus is NO to bull bars? Is everyone going to tell me I need to get a stainless steel bumper assembly with a whinch assembly and a full wrap around brush guard and a sticker that reads "If you can read this, flip me over!"
     
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    Get a bull bar if you like them. Seems like most people that get one later regret it.
     
  9. Aug 22, 2010 at 7:41 PM
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    no recommendations...its 6 of one and a half dozen of the other

    theyre supposed to LOOK like they'll protect the front of your truck but if any considerable force is applied they'll bend back into your bumper...thus defeating the purpose you want it for

    lots of people buy them and then later realize it adds inches to the truck and just doesnt have the strength theyre looking for

    brush guards are in the same category

    simple physics would show that anything like that mounted only on the 2 frame ends will bend when force is applied to the unsupported side
     
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    Thank you tigerfan!! now that makes sense!! ThaNK you. So... what would you recommend then if I wanted some sort of protection up front? I commute to and from northern VT every month so deer can be an issue. What do You have?
     
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    i had a bull bar for less than 6 months...bought it used for $50...turned around and gave it away

    after a month or so all i saw was my truck with an awful shiny chin...and it didnt protect jack...and it ruined my approach angle

    i have a full steel ARB bumper (but no winch)
     
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    I say go for it =)
     
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    oh and btw, it mounts onto where your front tow hooks are.
     
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    What is the mounting like on an ABR bumper? is this a professional install only? or something that I can tackle with a buddy, a toll set and a six pack? website for pricing?
     
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    ARB bumpers are pricey...i paid $550 for mine used

    they mount using crush cans on the frame rails into the body of the bumper itself...keeping it energy absorbing while still stout as hell
     
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    Ok, so just looked at the Sahara Abr bumper, any thoughts?
     
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    Tigerfan knows his stuff.

    If it's deer you're concerned about I would just increase your insurance coverage. Not much is going to protect the truck from a deer.

    Articc22 hit a deer going 55mph
    http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd-gen-tacomas/93531-i-hate-deer.html

    For minimal protection and not taking away from my approach angle I've been pleased with my CrossFab light bar. But of course it all goes back to your own personal preference, if you like bull bars go for it.

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    pretty sure the Deluxe Bull Bar is the only ARB bumper avail for your truck
     
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    Actually ARB and Shrockworks bumpers both have had several threads on various forums concerning deer damage...which was minimal...there was some blood and hair...and a bent front license plate...and no more deer ;)
     
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    I can't find the thread but I swear I saw one awhile back where a deer did some damage to big bumper. I think it was an All Pro bumper (however the bumper could be repaired) nothing against All Pro they make great stuff.

    Anyway you look at it deer are bad news.
     
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