What are you paying for 2020 Tacomas?

I’m pretty sure plenty of people see and are experiencing the future and current impact. Markets, governments, people, etc. are unpredictable. Love all these TW financial experts, doctors, etc. no one knows period how this will pan out.

 

It was announced they were extended, no changes.

 

Where was it announced? I'd like to be able to point to something to keep negotiations going, but the dealer and toyota are both still saying it ends today.

 

A. I actually am a PhD economist. That doesn't mean I can be sure of what will happen, but I am not spouting out of no where.

B. No, they don't realize what is very likely coming. We are early in the process of folks realizing the full extent of what is likely to happen (obviously, a miracle therapeutic would require an update). Its evident watching what people (like you) are saying. The downside risk here is real bad.

Just wait. Very interesting opportunities may be coming.

 

People like me huh and what is that supposed to mean? I also have a few degrees bud, but you can continue with your arrogant assumptive comment, I served 10 years, 3 of those overseas so you can make them, and no worries. I'm sure with your degree and background you do have a greater insight and better idea of what may come of this but it's still a best guess. No one knows for a 100% including brilliant economists, governments, etc. how this will play out, there are far to many variables, you can run models and scenarios all day long, still a best guess. I agree there are some that probably think nothing of it. But I'm willing to bet more people than not (myself included) can see the future economic impact here, although I'm sure we don't have as depth of an understanding as you may have of all the faucets, most of us can get the picture from defaulted mortgages, massive worldwide debt, lost jobs, etc. And I'm willing to be most people agree that it very likely will and already is worse than 2008, the great depression, etc.

 

A few pages back someone's buddy who is a regional manager / rep.

 

Actually, you got the ball rolling on questioning credentials. I told you my degree (PhD in economics) and my specialty is econometrics (let me translate: I have forgotten more than you will ever know about the strengths and weaknesses of economic models). Most economists are really worried right now and actually the biggest battle is probably whether we can or should resort to MMT if some of the worst case scenarios played out. As for 100% sure I think I have already addressed that.

There are two elements of expectations now. 1. Will we experience a massive contraction? As you said, no longer debatable. 2. How long will it be? @pochoboy is clearly betting on a sharp "V". Some, but a diminshing number, of professional economists still are.

In any case, I think your reasons for being defensive are obvious. Like I said: just wait. Time will tell.

 

Not defensive in the least bit, just not a fan of people making arrogant and assumptive comments, but no sweat, you do you, I may not be a expert in finance or economics but I probably have a better grasp of things in other areas than yourself, doesn't mean I go around stating things like "Its evident watching what people (like you)." Clearly you do have the background, credentials and knowledge to make these types of comments or statements in this given area, however most of the time here on TW this is not the case (plenty of Dave Ramsey's running around here), so I stand corrected. The original point I was trying to make which you put in better terms was how this evolves for the economy and whether its a sharp "V" as you put it or something else as outlined, point being its still evolving, filled with variables and a guessing game, though you may have a better grasp of the outcome in detail than the rest of us.

 

Tampa

 

Dumb question: Where online do you find the cash back rebates Toyota is offering?

 

https://www.toyota.com/socal/deals-incentives/?vehicles=tacoma

Just change your region based on your Zip code.

 

Im glad that Toyota didnt match it because Navy federal gave me an even lower APR of 1.85%. So its a win... and since im Banking with Navy fed, its much easier to keep track of payments.

 

2020 trd off-road manual ,adv tech,premium /leather moonroof pkg with most all the bells and whistles, I think I walked out at like 42k after taxes ( I’m from California where the taxes should come with lube and or something to bite on)

 

Congrats!
What dealer was this?

 

Thanks!
Toyota Fremont, Ca
pretty much did the whole thing through email.

 

OK, peace?

All I am saying is that it is difficult to predict what Toyota will do for the same reason economists are hedging between a few different paths forward: there is no precedent actually for what is happening now (and yes, you are correct: that creates big problems for lots of traditional models).

At this point I am waiting because down a couple of those paths I bet there will be huge price savings. We already know the damage is immense, but it is likely to get far, far worse if a few fairly high probability things happen (for example if what is now essentially a liquidity crisis in the financial markets morphs into a solvency crisis).

If those things happen I bet all the automakers will be offering deals well beyond what is available now. Toyota may even decide this is downright strategic, particularly with the Tacoma (they can lose a shit ton of money in this and it can still work out in their favor in the long run).

I have a 4X4 SR5 V6. If I can get them to a certain break point I would buy a second (and if I can get a TRD OR for $4k more than that I'll go that route since I like the locking diff). I think we have to see how things evolve, but there is a very good chance the stars will be aligning by, say, late July.

 

They just extended the cash back and 0% APR until 6/1.

 

I see the 0% on the web site now until 06/01 but I dont see any cash back info (only 0% finance deal)

 

Cash back rebate is the same. $2250 for 2019 models and $1750 for 2020 models

 

Opinion Inquiry: Access Cab Sport 4x4 Manual, Super White, lane departure, park assist, non-premium package with side steps.

They have it listed at $34,404 which includes the cash back offer.

Let them sweat, or try to make a move on it?

Other consideration: well, it sold.

Edit: Have they sorted the auto trans yet??