What are you paying for a gallon?

California laws affect Florida ?

 

is this a rhetorical question?

 

They do.

There's a saying, "As goes California, so goes the nation"

It's more prevalent in some areas than it is in others, but when it comes to this kind of BS, it's quite true.
New Federal EPA regulations are a match for older California laws.

 

I assume your gas blends are for smog control ?

 

california

 

kinda like the old: "when General Motors sneezes, the economy catches a cold"

I think we caught gonorrhea this last go around.

 

gotta keep the enviro-nazi lobby happy

 

Yup.

Various levels of oxygentates. Of course, MTBE is now banned so it's ethanol. Some areas require higher levels than others.

We were also the first state to mandate Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel, which sucked much of the economy out of our oil burning brothers the same as exygenates did for gas.
It also significantly increased the cost, and it can not be transported in the same trucks/tanks or pipes that were used for Low Sulfur Diesel. The specs for ULSD are so tight that a few ounces of LSD clinging to the walls of a pipe can contaminate an entire storage tank of ULSD.

And with respect to injector pumps, ULSD is every bit the problem that unleaded gas was to valves.

 

agree on the 1st part.

not on the 2nd...I have honor & ethics. I wasn't raised to accept handouts.

 

Nothing wrong with clean air

 

shit...just one micro-dot and I was a gonner for days.

 

agree.

although, a whole lot wrong with the EPA.

 

Interesting

There does have to be some effort to control smog though

 

You should do away with it , so what if the air ends up looking like Bejing

 

some of the bail out money was in the form of a government backed loan. much was a handout that will never be required to be paid back.

and thank you.

 

95% of the job was done by the end of the 80s.

The last 5% is being done without regard to it's impact on the economy.
In some cases, their steps are more harmful than helpful (IE: MTBE as an oxygenation agent, serious ground water pollutant)

Growing up in the 60s and 70s, we would have several "first stage smog alerts" every month... often more than one a week during the summer.
You could not see the Los Angeles skyline because it was brown... not unlike the photos from China prior to the Olympics.
I'd sit in a chair watching TV and it hurt to fully inhale... simply couldn't do it.

We haven't had air like that in 35 years.

 

not my point.

regulations working to keep the air & water clean is a great thing. I believe everyone supports that.

 

I'm glad I never experienced that type of poor air quality first hand

 

We should do away with the California CARB and put California under Federal standards.

Many models of vehicles are not available in California... not because they are "dirty"... but because the manufacturers don't want to spend the money to submit their vehicles for testing.

Just getting a set of headers approved for California costs in excess of $20k.
There's a reason the California-approved catalytic convertor is $600 and the one in Arizona that is identical except it doesn't have the CARB EO number is $150.