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What causes a -20% fuel trim?

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by CodeSeven, Dec 31, 2021.

  1. Jan 4, 2022 at 12:09 PM
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    CodeSeven

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    Just GB remanufacturing brand from carquest and parts authority.
     
  2. Jan 4, 2022 at 12:16 PM
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    Thats probably your problem, alot of aftermarket fuel injectors may work but dont spray the correct amount of fuel. I highly reccomend OEM toyota injectors.
     
  3. Jan 4, 2022 at 6:33 PM
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    I'm aware. I've been an Assistant Manager in auto parts for years and an A.S.E. Parts Specialist from 2006 to last year when N.I.A.S.E. stopped doing testing in my area due to covid. I've inspected the injector's spray pattern and they're spraying just fine and the resistances are great.
     
  4. Jan 4, 2022 at 7:16 PM
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    Do all codes of possible engine trouble trip the warning light?
     
  5. Jan 4, 2022 at 7:17 PM
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    They could be spraying good but that doesnt mean they're spraying the correct amount. Im going to guess it wasnt running rich till those injectors were installed.

    Ive even seen denso injectors spray to much fuel which is why I recommend OEM toyota injectors.
     
  6. Jan 4, 2022 at 7:22 PM
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    yes, after the computer goes through it's readiness monitors. my truck is still going through the evaporative test so I don't know yet if there's a code. there's nothing pending but that doesn't mean much until all the tests are done.
     
  7. Jan 4, 2022 at 7:59 PM
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    Unless you've done a flow test on all 6, you can't be sure. Reputable companies attach a test sheet to your order.
     
  8. Jan 4, 2022 at 8:08 PM
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  9. Jan 12, 2022 at 8:19 PM
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  10. Jan 14, 2022 at 7:12 PM
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    Nope. Wasn't the regulator. i'll have to find someone with a scanner to see if i can see which injector might be having to spray less.
     
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  11. Jan 29, 2022 at 4:30 AM
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    Updates?
     
  12. Jan 29, 2022 at 8:25 AM
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    None atm, sir. I'm going to, if anything, say don't buy reman fuel injectors. Though my truck runs GREAT and BETTER THAN EVER, I still have an injector, 2 or 3 that are spraying more than they should and the ECU is cutting back. FWIW if you really are on a dime and have to get something, reman is ok. But you'll likely run in to issues like this.

    I'm speculating that one of the faulty injectors I installed was made for a different engine, though physically the same. the 3.4 liter has 566CC cylinders whereas a 2.4 toyota has 600CC cylinders. A possibility is that I have an injector for a 2.4 from roughly the same year spraying a little more than the 3.4 needs or the jets of one of the remans I got has been slightly "opened" which isn't something that is replaced when rebuilding injectors.
     
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  13. Jan 29, 2022 at 10:08 AM
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    Can recommend MotorWest performance for a good set of injectors. Have used on 2 trucks and both went great.
     
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  14. Jan 29, 2022 at 4:00 PM
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    Why am i only learning about this company now? o_O
     
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  15. Jan 30, 2022 at 9:32 AM
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    They’re a great shop, ask them about the brown vs blue injectors
     
  16. Apr 16, 2022 at 10:30 PM
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    PHUK!Q@ So monday my engine light comes back on and you guessed it, too rich. So I ordered those MotorWest performance and now my truck runs better than ever!
     
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  17. Apr 16, 2022 at 10:32 PM
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    Trims are on average 0%, does't stumble when idling. it used to lose power and act weird as RPMs would climb towards redline, now it accelerates smoothly. No knocking. and I think it was cheaper than buying those other injectors from my old job :rofl:I just threw them away. Not even bothering trying to get my money back. fuck it.
     
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  18. Apr 17, 2022 at 8:59 AM
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    How much were they

    Edit: and im glad you came back and posted the solution.
     
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  19. Apr 17, 2022 at 9:06 AM
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    just north of $300 for all 6.
     
  20. Apr 17, 2022 at 9:13 AM
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