What do you want in an all electric Tacoma?

Slated for around 2025. Probably I4 turbo or I4 turbo hybrid powertrains in addition to full BEV powertrains.

 

Hope they don't force turbos on us, turbos and reliability don't mix. Would take an SC though.

 

More likely than not. But would be more powerful than current V6's with better fuel mileage.

 

If I wanted power I wouldn't have bought a Tacoma, reliability is king to me and FI is not for the most part, SC are better then turbos because they aren't exposed to the exhaust side of the engine but I would still prefer naturally aspirated.

 

That's why I'd go for the BEV. More reliable than any ICE engine.

 

The power grid around were I live is to unreliable a good wind storm and we can be out for a week, an EV is just out of the question for me right now.

 

Thats a bummer.

 

The town spent a ton of money trimming all the trees near the road to try and fix it, did not help even alittle.

 

If I could go to a dealership tomorrow and put a deposit on a fully electric Tacoma I would. I can't wait to see what they come up with. There's a video somewhere of Toyota techs driving a disguised truck with two Rivians following it around. You know they're calibrating their product against Rivian. It will surely have kinks, but it will meet or exceed what is being offered on the market by the other players.

 

I agree with you, Too many safety issues.

 

1. independent, waterproof, motors for each wheel (Eliminate almost the whole drivetrain and enable all kinds of locker type features)
2. One of those Honda 2kw generators built into the engine compartment, with an ample gas tank and the ability to run it / recharge as you drive (For the long highway trips and occasional towing and when needed range extender and for topping off off the grid). And that can be tapped into for when camping on the job site whatever.
3. batteries up high, under the hood (in place of the engine) and maybe reserve battery where the trans was? (Eliminate or greatly reduce clearance, damage and water susceptibilities )
4. High voltage cables routed high (Again, to make them less prone to damage). Hell mount them all high, not at foot level
5. Pelican case type storage where the gas tank and muffler was (Accessable thru the bed)
6. multi folding tailgate like the GMC full size

 

Honestly curious what makes turbos a safety issue? more parts = less reliable no matter what way you put it, but I would have faith in a toyota turbo. Hell I have a twin turbo BMW with 170k miles and it still drives fine

 

Ya I didn't know what he meant by that either. My concern with turbos is just reliability. Doesn't matter how you slice it mechanical components in the exhaust path are not gonna last in the long term, by long term I mean like 300k miles minimum.

 

Exhaust valves seem to last just fine.

 

Can't compare an exhaust valve to the complexity of a turbo and all its supporting hardware, and exhaust valves are cooled by the cylinder heads water jacket.

 

I can, one spins fast and the other goes up and down fast. Turbos are cooled by oil and water too. Also, exhaust valves are cooled by the valve seat; not directly by the water jacket.

 

Sounds like a great way reduce oil and coolant life, also put and increased load on the radiator, also increase the complexity of the oil and coolant systems by trying to support the turbo and waste gate. After all that the bearing in the turbo can disintegrate at a moments notice dude to buildup from burnt oil. Doesn't matter how you slice FI will not be as reliable as naturally aspirated.

 

Optional cold air intake that gives it 20% more HP.

 

That's like saying a 6 cylinder puts more load on the oil and radiator, has a more complex oiling and cooling system than a 4 cylinder trying to support the 2 extra cylinders. All of those "issues" are accounted for with service internals and component selection. Burnt oil in turbos is a thing of the past since they are now water cooled and naturally circulate water and oil even after off. There's a reason turbo timers are no longer needed.

I'm a fan of turbos and a FI engine can be plenty reliable. Turbo 4 has less moving parts than N/A 6. Happy Friday...

 

Naw man the oiling and cooling system on 4 cylinder and a 6 cylinder are virtually identical in terms of complexity, the 6 cylinder is just slightly longer, there is no extra parts in the 6 cylinder's cooling and oil loops. Also the 6 cylinder has the same combustion chamber and exhaust temperature as the 4 cylinder, were as on FI the exhaust and combustion chamber temps are much higher. As far as a 4 cylinder being more reliable than a 6 cylinder, this is true just look at the reputation the 2.7 has. Also I wasn't comparing a 4 cylinder to a 6 cylinder, I was comparing a FI to another engine with the same architecture only NA, and there is no way you can say the FI is just as reliable. FI is less reliable and more money to maintain, you can't escape the physics of the extra heat, higher compression, or the increased number of parts.