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What does a clutch fluid accumulator do?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by hudhawk, Sep 29, 2011.

  1. May 5, 2018 at 12:35 AM
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    https://www.napaonline.com/p/BK_6415027
     
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    FWIW, I did not see anything like this on my 2014 2.7 SR while I was replacing my clutch the past few days. I can get pics is anyone would like.
     
  5. Sep 22, 2018 at 7:40 AM
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    I'm thinking about doing this on my 2014 OR double cab. Is this something that can be done pretty easily in the driveway? I just want to avoid the dreaded feeling when you immobilze your vehicle and realize there is no way of completing without a lift
     
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    Stuff you probably shouldn't try at home. Check build.
    It’s for squares and wimps. It was particularly bad in winter, took like 2 seconds when it was -30 for the pedal to come back up after I lifted my foot off...
     
  7. Oct 29, 2018 at 9:50 PM
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    So does bypassing the accumulator make the clutch pedal worse in cold temps or better?
     
  8. Oct 29, 2018 at 9:53 PM
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    Stuff you probably shouldn't try at home. Check build.
    Better. It's terrible in cold temps with the accumulator.
     
  9. Nov 7, 2018 at 9:11 PM
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    Can anyone yet confirm on the 3rd gen what part/piece/hose length is needed? Getting to the point where I want to do this and would like to have all parts on hand before starting... thanks.
     
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    I did my 2014 today. Much better. I wish I did this long ago. Now I don't get burnt clutch smell when trying start from a stop on a steep hill.

    I did it in my garage and just needed to jack up the drivers side front. Having the steering wheel turned all the way right also made it easier. Total it took me about 2 hours. Having some long and stubby open ended 12mm and 10mm wrenches was helpful. There still was a lot of fighting getting my hands in there and loosening/tightening the fittings without damaging anything. I ended up loosening the fitting on the slave cylinder too since the lower fitting on the accumulator would not budge initially. As mentioned in the video notes, long socket extensions and a u-joint socket so you can get at the bolts via the wheel well are a must.

    I got the brass fitting at a NAPA store, but couldn't remember if I needed regular or "bubble" type, so I bought both. You don't want the "bubble" version.

    The fitting was all that was needed. I was able to bend the upper and lower lines without kinking them and reuse both. Hope this helps for anyone considering this mod.
     
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  11. Nov 10, 2018 at 3:04 PM
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    probably accumulates fluid.
     
  12. Feb 1, 2019 at 10:16 AM
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    I think the explanation is correct but I think it's important to make a description distinction. What Toyota typically uses is correctly (I believe) called an Inverted Double Flare and not a Bubble, which is usually what the ISO/Euro (sometimes DIN, which may not be right) flare is called.

    But it's not always the case, the question has come up because Bosch made ABS modules for Land Cruisers at some point and the fittings on that end of the lines were typical of European cars, e.g. the ISO/DIN Bubble and the rest of the brakes used SAE/Japanese Inverted Double.

    The key is the female fitting will have a cone sticking up inside and not a cavity. The flare is sandwiched between two cones on Double Flare while the tube on Bubble is flat on back and seats against a concave cone.

    Taken from IH8MUD: https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/question-about-brake-line-fittings-cutting-and-flaring.779567/

    Double Flare on left and Bubble Flare on right.

    flare_double_vs_bubble_zpsa13a5f7c.jpg

    Again, Double Flare on left, Bubble Flare on right.

    flare5_zps780fed8f.jpg

    Taken from: http://www.fedhillusa.com/?page=flare

    In this case Double Flare tube end.

    image02.jpg

    Looking inside the female fitting for a Double Flare.

    image04.jpg

    This is Bubble Flare.

    image03.jpg

    Looking inside a female fitting with Bubble Flare.

    image05.jpg

    And BTW, the NAPA coupler most people get is correct, inverted double. Only pointing out that "bubble" may be confusing.

    https://www.napaonline.com/p/BK_6415027

    A fairly easy comparison of "Double" vs "Bubble".

    Flare_Fittings.jpg

    https://www.hoseandfittingsetc.com/our-blog/bid/76614/Brake-Line-Fitting-Identification-How-to
     
    Last edited: Feb 1, 2019
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  13. Feb 1, 2019 at 10:29 AM
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    Nice work! I will link this for info purposes in the ADM thread. This would have made my research easier.
     

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