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what does any TSB have to do with the factory warranty?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by aficianado, Feb 28, 2010.

  1. Feb 28, 2010 at 7:25 AM
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    aficianado

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    it just dawned on me WTF? TSB's are based on any factory blunders right? engineer johndoe dropped the ball on whatever..leaf springs, tranny quirks..whatever. they dont get any better or worse from mileage and time right?
    i had a chevy S10 ZR2. 80k miles out of warranty. i took it in for some random (i cannot remember what now) work. when i picked it up, i lifted the hood and found a bunch of new wiring. i asked them, and they said they ran a check and found a windshield wiper wiring TSB on my truck..and changed the entire harness for the wiper motor. free, so they didnt need to call me for any prior approval. i never knew why my wipers would stick. i used to need to get out in the rain, and help them get started.

    pisses me off that i cant get the rear leaf TSB or any other TSB addressed. ok, i need more coffee..AND i'm working on a sunday. grouchy for sure. sorry.
     
  2. Feb 28, 2010 at 7:27 AM
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    YoterHead

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    lol I had that same TSB done on my S-10. Except mine was paid for out of pocket at first, then the TSB came out and I got a refund.

    I agree with you though, it shouldn't be connected to the warranty.
     
  3. Feb 28, 2010 at 7:32 AM
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    luni

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    They're based on different warranties. TSB springs are a 3yr/36k comprehensive warranty, if you don't have an issue with the rear suspension ride quality in that time period, you don't have a problem. And if you raise the issue after the fact it's probably because someone on a website told you if you get to the dealership with a bed full of sandbags you'll get new rear springs.

    The tranny TSB was based on a 5yr/56k drivetrain warranty or something like that. Same principle, if you don't have a problem in half a decade, it's not because your internet friends didn't tell you you had a problem, it's because you really didn't have a problem.

    TSBs are not recalls. I think that's the discrepancy you need to make.
     
  4. Feb 28, 2010 at 7:49 AM
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    Mr_Torque

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    You bring up a good point. It seems like you most owners have to raise their voices and stomp their feet to get the TSB performed rather then have the dealer volunteer the information to them. They gave me crap about the rear spring TSB and then insisted that the ride would be too stiff. It was like they were trying to talk me out of it.
     
  5. Feb 28, 2010 at 7:52 AM
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    The first dealership I took my truck to, the service manager flat out refused to do it to my face. I went down the street and they took my VIN over the phone and made an appointment. It's all about where you go. I told them both that I go camping and the rear suspension can't handle the weight on bumpy washboard roads and it feels like I'm riding on the bump stops.
     
  6. Feb 28, 2010 at 7:56 AM
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    I think you're getting TSB and RECALL confused.

    In briefly looking - the S10 had a RECALL on the wiper harnass for bad solder joints. Recall ID# 21069. That is why they replaced it for FREE while being out of warrantee AND they probably don't need your permission to perform it.
    http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/09-int/1995/chevrolet/s10/index.html

    A RECALL is a safety issue and is performed FOR FREE anytime you own the vehicle regardless of warrantee.

    A TSB is a 'Technical Service Bulletin' and in most cases - it outlines 'fixes' to common consumer complaints. IF you're under warrantee.... Dealers don't have to perform the TSB's and they are not required to honor them for you.

    I'm working also...been here since 4am and will be here till 4pm. My feet hurt!! I need some new steal toes...these ones suck!! (laugh)
     
  7. Feb 28, 2010 at 8:49 AM
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    I've been waring Red Wing for ever. I don't ware steel toes because the edge seemed to hit my foot when I tried them on and I figured I'd be hurting but I see they are pushing a new design with more toe room. You might want to check it out. Page 3 of PDF http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q...&gl=us&sig=AHIEtbSHkz-ZV10VDimkpS7yPUgYYCpjpg


     
  8. Feb 28, 2010 at 12:39 PM
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    janster. good point.

    coffee'd up, shift over at work, going home..feeling better.
     
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