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What exactly does switching to H4 do?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Dansnare, Oct 20, 2016.

  1. Oct 20, 2016 at 1:30 PM
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    Roll Tide

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    Head unit. That's it.
    OP, just open your diffs, and take a welder and weld everything together. At'll fix it.
     
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  2. Oct 20, 2016 at 1:31 PM
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  3. Oct 20, 2016 at 1:32 PM
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    But if one wheel is spinning, and the other one isn't, then all the power is going to air AROUND the wheel that is spinning.
     
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  4. Oct 20, 2016 at 1:35 PM
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    I sure hope he tells them to use some gear lube to avoid getting splinters in their peckers. OH, I wonder if he tells them that's what "wood peckers" are, not a bird?
     
  5. Oct 20, 2016 at 1:36 PM
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    I didn't see it mentioned but I think up to 07 or 08, the TRD models came with a clutch based rear limited slip diff. All the newer trucks use the rear brakes to simulate limited slip (so the rear diff is as open as can be).
     
  6. Oct 20, 2016 at 1:41 PM
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    So, if the rear right tire is the primary drive tire, and it is spinning freely, with the accelerator pedal to the floor, what is the left front steer tire doing?
     
  7. Oct 20, 2016 at 1:43 PM
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    2nd gens have auto lsd after something like 08-09 (not sure which year changed), which is simulated lsd through the brake system.
     
  8. Oct 20, 2016 at 1:43 PM
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    You mean the LSDs from 07 or 08 and up are simulated LSDs? I thought only the 3rd Gens had the simulated LSDs. Just trying to clarify
     
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    If my memory is any good then I believe so. The "older" 2nd gens actually have physical clutch packs in the rear diff. The "newer" 2nd gens have a traction mode called "AUTO LSD" that applies brake pressure to the rear wheels to gain traction.
     
  10. Oct 20, 2016 at 1:47 PM
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    If one wheel is jacked up and spinning and the other is stationary neither wheel is transferring any power anywhere, except for the amount of power it takes to stir the air up around the tire etc which i'm ignoring.

    Lower that wheel and both wheels grip and get power. My both or neither is definitely correct in our context.
     
  11. Oct 20, 2016 at 1:49 PM
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    Found this from 2010. I thought they were all mechanical. Did they switch when they did the facelift in 2012?

     
  12. Oct 20, 2016 at 1:52 PM
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    No, they switched earlier because of traction control devices being introduced.
     
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    Don't think about energy "consumed" by a wheel, think about energy "transferred through" a wheel. The energy transferred for our purposes here is energy that goes to the ground, moving the truck forward. If one wheel is spinning and the other is stationary and the truck is holding still, no power is being transferred by either tire because the truck isn't moving.

    We know this usually isn't the case, because there's friction and heat even when doing a burnout. If you stomp the gas and one wheel spins like crazy and the other doesn't, you're still getting equal power transfer through both wheels. It's not as much as it would be if you weren't spinning a tire, but it's still equal.
     
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    When you turn the 4 wheel drive knob, a negative pressure valve off the manifold opens and accutuates the auto hubs in the front driveline. Now you're in 4 wherl drive. Then all the differential action takes place and off you go.
     
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    The issue that is confusing you is this thread of insanity very early on started using "power" when it should have been using "torque". An open diff delivers equal *torque* to each wheel at all times. Not power.

    So go back through all the ridiculousness and when someone says "equal power" change that to "equal torque" and it will be easier to see why everyone is talking past each other and misunderstanding.

    Now to hit the unsubscribe button as fast as possible...
     
  18. Oct 20, 2016 at 2:09 PM
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    Good thing i'm locked front and rear, this thread is a shit show
     
  19. Oct 20, 2016 at 2:13 PM
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    Ok ladies and gents chill your shit.

    I have jack stands and jacks ready. I have a selectable in the rear and an Aussie up front. What am I proving?
     
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