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What have you done to your Tacoma today? 1st Gen Edition

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by SlimDigg, Feb 7, 2011.

  1. Aug 3, 2021 at 6:13 AM
    JoeyWales

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    Yes, less Raptor lights/stickers and more mechanical know-how.

    Nice truck.
     
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    cynicalrider

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    I'm extremely interested if prices will go back down when materials go back down, something tells me no.

    I'll add that Scarab washer to my list of things I do not NEED but definitely now WANT.
     
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  3. Aug 3, 2021 at 7:27 AM
    BeLance89

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    At first I thought i was going to have to, but loosening the crossover pipe gave me enough wiggle room (literally) to access the top starter bolt. I didn't have to completely remove any of the crossover bolts either, just backed them off a bit. I was able to put a socket on all 4 of the crossover bots as well by using a medium length extension and a universal joint; that was nice to be able to do. I had OBX headers on my last engine and it was impossible to get to some of those crossover bolts with the engine in, and even a PITA with the engine out.
     
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  4. Aug 3, 2021 at 7:58 AM
    BeLance89

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    I agree, I don't think prices will go back down. The demand is there, I believe there's only one other company making 1st gen racks (UpTop), and they are always improving on the versatility of their racks; innovation is valuable.

    Just a note on the Scarab washer bottle... if you've done the deckplate mod, the added thickness of the deckplate makes lining up the airbox mounting points difficult (the deckplate pushes on the hardware used to mount the washer bottle to the bracket). I think this could be overcome by using different hardware that doesn't have a tall head height to mount the washer bottle to the Scarab bracket. It is super nice to have just a small little bottle instead of a that 55 gallon drum tucked into the fender.
     
  5. Aug 3, 2021 at 8:14 AM
    cynicalrider

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    I mean my bottle has been long gone, but it's one of these that the lid doesn't always close that well on, and the bottles very thin so if the ziptie that holds the motor on is a little off it will leak.

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    For $5 for a two pack at walmart 5 years ago, it's definitely served its purpose, but I like a cleaner version.
     
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    I found the bottle they use, im sure you have the knowledge and tools in your shop to make a bracket
    https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/eppages/reservoir_15-06830.php
     
  7. Aug 3, 2021 at 8:32 AM
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  8. Aug 3, 2021 at 8:42 AM
    DashMaple

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    Gotta love it, I get they need to make a profit but sometimes it like, really man youre charging $125 for a $10 bottle and 5 minutes of work?
     
  9. Aug 3, 2021 at 10:05 AM
    m3bassman

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    Use a nalgene bottle. Fits in the same place but more durable and screw lid. Be sure to drill a breather in the top ;)
     
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  10. Aug 3, 2021 at 10:31 AM
    1997tacomav6

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    Its about having a consistent correct AFR in boost, better timing number, no open loop or closed loop to deal with,
    no MAF used anymore, the power curve should come on righ away instead of at 3000 rpms. The OEM ECU is very conservative
    Yes I have before numbets but that was done when it was 50-60 degrees outside so I will have to wait till fall (it's 90-100 degrees now)
    to do the comparison after I get it installed and tuned
     
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  11. Aug 3, 2021 at 10:52 AM
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    While I get the disdain for the price, there is something to be said about operating costs (website, shipping, employees, hardware on hand, plasma table and electronics, r & d) that I don't think a lot of people realize when they shit talk pricing on stuff. Having amatuer fabricating a ton of stuff at this point, NOTHING is 5 mins of work. To produce a bracket similar to that you need to source stainless, cut out the center hole, drill 4 holes, bend it and bolt it up after measuring it a hundred times for your bottle and mounting points. I'd say it's a solid 2-3 hours of fab for a remotely nice looking product. Based on how much I make an hour and what I feel my time is worth, $65 is more than reasonable.

    Granted I solved the same problem in less than an hour with $5 worth of parts, but it's nowhere near as stable or visually appealing. I guess it was closer to $5.50 but thats factoring in the fact that I already owned a drill and multiple hole saws.
     
  12. Aug 3, 2021 at 11:03 AM
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    If you want a cleaner look you can use these
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  13. Aug 3, 2021 at 11:07 AM
    DashMaple

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    Oh no, I completely agree. The price for the scarab mount is fair.
    I was assuming the methanol injection companies werent selling a bracket and just charging $100+ for a bottle and pump, which is where I got the 5 minutes of work from. I know making a bracket is involved and takes wayyyy longer than 5 minutes
     
  14. Aug 3, 2021 at 11:11 AM
    cynicalrider

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    Only if it adds 5hp.

    Ah word. :thumbsup: I mean I kinda want it to buy it for the jeep tears sticker alone. :rofl:
     
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  15. Aug 3, 2021 at 11:13 AM
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    Definitely a huge selling point :rofl:
     
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  17. Aug 3, 2021 at 11:36 AM
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    the jeep tears sticker is just as good as 40s and Tons

    edit: My father in law has a jeep, so… the jeep tears sticker was a HUGE purchase incentive.
     
  18. Aug 3, 2021 at 12:06 PM
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    I never mentioned the bracket. The price for that washer bottle kit is for the bracket, not the bottle.That’s understandable.

    But tacking on an insane profit margin just because people don’t know where else to look for something is too much.

    That being said I my memory failed me. For some reason I remember these methanol tanks being much higher in price. I just checked and it’s fairly reasonable. But you can still buy them direct without any logo for cheaper.
     
  19. Aug 3, 2021 at 12:13 PM
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    Yeah that price for a bracket is understandable. Too much for my pocketbook, especially when I have a friend with a cnc plasma table, but the pricing makes sense buying from a company. You've got material + R&D + overhead, it all adds up quick.

    My dad ran his own plumbing shop for 10 years and people would always think hes robbing them with $140/hr labor, when is take home for him was less than a 1/4 of that
     
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