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What have you done to your Tacoma today? 1st Gen Edition

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by SlimDigg, Feb 7, 2011.

  1. Dec 26, 2018 at 9:26 AM
    Blackdawg

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    have you looked at LCE's stuff? Good kits there. What Im going for on my daily.
     
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    that is all you need to know.
     
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    They look good, but you can go to any manufacturers web site and they make their stuff sound good. Have you used them before, or know someone that has? I was looking at their web page https://www.lceperformance.com/3VZ-5VZ-CLUTCH-KITS-s/16730.htm Looks like they have four for the 5VZ which one would you recommend for my application?
     
  4. Dec 26, 2018 at 9:51 AM
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    I've heard good things about Excedy at least as far as OEM quality clutches go, not sure about their performance ones.
     
  5. Dec 26, 2018 at 9:54 AM
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    Each one has a different torque and HP rating. You get what you pay for. The metallic pro can take 475 torque/hp and the street can take 300 torque/hp.

    So it depends on your truck and your driving.
     
  6. Dec 26, 2018 at 10:01 AM
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    Stock engine, Daily driver, plus 100+ days a year off road. Fairly challenging conditions, but not rock crawling extreme.
     
  7. Dec 26, 2018 at 10:03 AM
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    yes i know several members on here that have run the LCE stuff with great results.

    The street kit is the same Exedy kit you posted already..or its an ever higher model.

    The pro kit might be a bit much for what you want.
     
  8. Dec 26, 2018 at 10:08 AM
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    The original clutch lasted me 16 years. I did smoke it a few times over the years in some challenging off road conditions, but they were all times when I was in hi-range and should have been in lo-range. I know better now. When you say, "a bit much" what exactly do you mean?
     
  9. Dec 26, 2018 at 10:12 AM
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    I don't think you'd need it.

    The original clutch is quite good in these trucks. I wouldn't get anything "race" related. Those aren't designed for long term use. Nothing "race" is ever. Offroad leaf sprung trucks for instance swap leaf packs ever other race. They are swapping clutches a lot too.

    Id go for either the OEM replacement, or the street one from LCE if you want a heavier pedal and better clamping force.

    If a supercharge is in your near future, then go for the Pro or Stage 1.
     
  10. Dec 26, 2018 at 10:13 AM
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    Also, I didn't resurface my flywheele when I put the ceramic clutch in. Might have contributed to it's short life. I was thinking of just getting a new one this time. There are tons of them on Amazon and RockAuto for under $100. The ones LCE sells are $300-$400 and an OEM one from Camelback is $425 Are the more expensive ones worth all the extra money?
     
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    I agree with blackdawg above. For your scenario I don't see anything performing and lasting better than OEM on the clutch replacement
     
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    The Excedy OEM replacement kits are supposed to be good, only other one I'd consider I'd the actual Aisin OEM replacement but I've heard they're equivalent in quality
     
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    Not sure on the fly wheel. I resurfaced mine last time. Know a few that got the LCE heavier one.
     
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    I read somewhere that the new Aisin ones have plastic retainers on the springs and people have had them break.
     
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    What's the advantage of a heavier one? I would just have mine resurfaced, but I don't know if I trust anyone in Sheridan to do it properly. Plus it would be nice to be able to get it right back together, and not have to wait for it to get resurfaced.
     
  17. Dec 26, 2018 at 10:42 AM
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    I like the dealership in Sheridan. Though I doubt they have their own machine to do that.

    Heavier fly wheels means when you let off the accelerator and go to change gears(Clutch disengaged) the RPMs drop slower. A lighter fly wheel will make them drop faster.

    From the folks the put the heavier one in they loved it as it kept the rpms right where they needed to be to shift. We aren't driving high reving cars so we aren't wanting to drop 3000rpm between shifts fast. But thats a personal thing, I never mind the stock flywheel.

    You also might not be able to resurface it if its warped, has hot spots, or whatever. But won't know that till its out.
     
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    I put in an Aisin OEM replacement several years ago and am not that happy with it. Main complaint is that it's out of balance and it's clearly noticeable when you push the clutch in at anywhere around 4k RPM.

    Been thinking about putting in an LCE this winter. I know @lotsoftoys had a dual comp and loved it.

    I want something that I feel like I can beat on and ride a bit when wheeling.
     
  19. Dec 26, 2018 at 10:51 AM
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    I had a stock Aisin put in as well last time, I guess it does fine as a stock clutch but the soft 'mashed potatoes' feel is what bothers me about it, doesn't grab with confidence especially offroad. As a result I don't expect it to last half as long as it would If it only saw street use but next time I'll opt for something more suited to the supercharger and wheeling
     
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    Thanks for the info. I can see how a heavier flywheel would help when I'm bogging down in deep snow, and need to downshift quickly. But at seven times the cost I don't see it being worth it for me. I think I will just get the $45 LUK flywheel from RockAuto.
     
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