What is being transmitted to Toyota

Sorry, no offense or sarcasm intended. I’m dead serious. Data collection and tracking is happening and it’s too late to stop it. We shouldn’t worry about it.

 

Your best solution.

 

They don’t need your phone, works without it. Only really an issue if you get in an accident and insurance or lawyers want to see the data.

 

Read the privacy agreement in the owners manual. My interpretation of the wording is that they are capable of taking EVERYTHING including video from you cameras, telemetry, etc. this protects Toyota from baseless lawsuits. Several years ago people were using Toyota because their Priuses were driving on their own and crashing. I suspect this has something to do with that.

With all that said, there is no way Toyota is paying to stream video from every Toyota. The only way they are going to get it, is if you are in an accident.

 

This started with 3rd gen right?

 

Height and measurements of the girl from the “agency” you hired for the weekend.

 

Somewhere - maybe on TW, I was reading a discussion of how to disable the transmitter capability of the truck - how it connects. The tech heads in the discussion had found the transmitter, it was very deeply embedded in the electronics of the vehicle. However........the weakness they found was in the antenna - it can be located and disconnected. I should have kept track of where I found this - lost now - but the concept is correct. The truck probably doesn't depend on any return information so loss of its signal won't ring any alarm bells at "Toyota Central".

 

I pulled the DCM fuse, am not sure about the backup battery. I've been living without the DCM power and the bluetooth mic doesn't work. I never did the formal opt-out, feel like I should anyway.

I once worked at a major tech company. You should see the extent to which they go to take care of user data and privacy. There are strong European laws to prevent abuse of user data. In the US, we don't have such strong laws. Some of these companies apply the GDPR (European law) to everyone because it makes their life easier. So I trust my smartphone. I trust that it doesn't give my location out to apps that I don't permit to read my location. The problem is that many of the apps we use are data brokers, and the credit card companies leak data like mad.

Yet, my driving data is MUCH more fine-grained than the occasional location ping. It's different. Just because I give my rough location to a dating app or to Home Depot to make my life easier doesn't mean I want to give the precise details of my driving habits to Toyota. What is even creepier is that when the dealership got me to set up the app, they wanted me to enable sharing of my driving habits with insurance. Horrid. I want none of that.

 

I started this thread and I am now very enlightened by everyones input and knowledge. Can't even drive without someone watching you. Sad and creepy at the same time.

 

It's a bad idea to just ignore it, Toyota and all the other car manufacturers are selling your data, it's rampant in the auto industry. I recently saw an article comparing automakers data collection to other platforms and they are some of the worst in that regard, the text collection thing is no joke. The user agreement on one of the papers that was signed when the truck was sold allows them to do this. Why should Toyota or any car manufacturer profit from our personal data, if $ goes to anyone it should go to the person who's data it is. I get that they want and need the telemetry data from the vehicle but that shouldn't give them the right to sell personal info, kinda like breaking a trust. The car manufacturers have created another revenue stream, at the very least the purchaser should be able to opt out of the sale of their information and you can't do that at this point.

I don't care about big brother watching, I have nothing to hide but I don't like the idea of them making $ off my data and not having any way to stop it, it's our information and just because the manufactures have an easy way to collect personal information on top of their telemetry doesn't mean it's right. Opting out at this time means very little, at least until they decide to change the laws regarding data collection. We all know there's many ways to collect our data, phone, internet, social media etc... The text issue was was one of the main reasons the auto manufacturers were singled out for this. When it comes to collecting data for other purposes then the collector's immediate use, everyone should push back against that when given the opportunity. Eventually personal data collection will become a far bigger issue than it is currently, we know many platforms are making allot of $$ off yours and my data, if someone doesn't see that as an issue then don't worry about it but I will always push back against that. Used to be NSA could only collect data on non-americans and only citizens conversing with foreigners. That was changed around 911 and now they now collect data on all of us but even they need a warrant to use what's said in texts.

 

Ima beat the tarnation out of that 4th gen.

 

Big brother is always watching. I'd be more concerned about the invasion of privacy from whichever device you made this post from, than the data collected from my truck.

On another note, you bought the extended warranty?!? ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS just take whatever they give to you during the original purchase. Don't pay any extra for that crap. I already knew this beforehand, just having dealt with it before, but a coworker of mine's wife is the manager of a dealership in our town. They have a person whose sole role is to try and find any loophole they can to not honor warranty claims. Think about that. Dealerships and such paying a whole salary to someone, just to help them be sleaze balls and not honor what you paid them extra to do...

 

Ugh!!!

 

Right. Just surrender like the good sheeples lol.

 

FIFY

(Sorry OP, just jumping in on the funnin')

 

Pictures of your butt as you are sitting down and getting up. As well as down blouse from the center rearview camera

 

Interesting, I'm quite sure Toyota is gathering some info on my truck silently but some one on the last page of comments said they know your Odometer reading and a ton of other info. So I logged in to my Toyota app and it doesn't know what my Odometer is, shows n/a.
I have never actually activated or acknowledged any of the trial services like SafetyConnect or the WiFi service trial. The wifi trial shows as still available too though I could care less about it.
The only info it does seem to have in the app is my vin, service history from dealers and what I entered.

 

That was me.

 

It looks like a lot of people posting here have read "The Age of Surveillance Capitalism". Basically, it's about how Google, Amazon, Facebook, etc. learned how to monetize "data exhaust" from web searches, online purchases, etc. The fact that you (we) are on this forum is noted and recorded in a database somewhere and that will be used to target advertising deemed to be of interest to you by some algorithm because of your presence on this forum. Big Data knows and records all.