What tires came with your trd offroad?

I'm at around 24K on my factory rubber and I'm already getting ready to replace them. I'm down to around 4/32's so I'm expecting by 30K they'll be worn enough they won't be safe for crappy weather. I'm looking at 265/75R16 Discoverer AT3's.

 

Anyone know the weight of the stock tires? Also, oddly, my 22 OR came with Goodyear “territory” with Kevlar … but others seem to get “adventurer”.. anyone know the difference and if they weight is similar ?

 

If l am not mistaken it's still basically the same tire, they dressed up the sidewall and changed the name or something.

 

yeah. it’s a crap tire. i recall a TFL podcast where they had the Goodyear people talking about how great it is. It’s pure crap.

 

What are you basing your opinion on?

 

I ran them twice on my property and the second time had a flat on trails that are rough / rocky but not that crazy. Maybe “crap” is unfair given what I’m trying to use them for. Maybe they just don’t meet my needs as they are an SL load and I need something thicker.

 

Goodyear Kevlar Highway Tires. (And they were an okay highway tire).

But thankfully I upsized to the awesome (C Load) 265/75/16 Goodyear Wrangler "Duratracs". The Goodyear tire, Toyota should have put on the Off Road.

 

What was the cause of the flat? Did you run over a nail or something?

 

No. I don’t know for sure but my land has no nails. It could have been a sharp rock or low cedar tree stump we had recently cut. In any case, the tire couldn’t handle it … with all of its “Kevlar”…. I personally think it’s a weak tire and to do any rocky/rough off-roading you need C or higher. If folks have good experience with the stock tires that’s great but imho if you’re doing anything in rocky and rough terrain, use them at your own risk.

 

These are the tires I’m seriously considering given the modest-ish weight of 45lb. I assume these are much more durable than the stock highway tires (Adventurer/Territory or whatever they call them now).

 

I’ve had perhaps 10 flat automobile tire experiences in my entire life and most were due to running worn out tires, followed by sharp objects on the road, followed by losing beads in -0F weather. I’ve never had a flat I could blame on a rock. I have seen them in YouTube videos though.

I’ve got 5-10k on the stock Goodyear wranglers and I’ve found them to be decent all terrain tires for daily driving in snow country with occasional adventures.

I also have a set of LT mud terrains for my more serious adventures, but I consider them overkill for any sort of road.

 

So I went off roading on my ranch again in the stock tires. Popped driver side rear tire a second time now (popped the replacement) — 2/3 times. I need a C or maybe even E. Ranch is full of flint rocks and some low cut thin cedar stumps.

 

Anyone know where I can get these tires? I bought my 2020 OR pre owned and they came with different highway tires but the spare is a Goodyear All terrain adventure. I cannot find those tires anywhere in that size and was just curious where I could find them if at all

 

I have them on my 2020 OR, but it looks like Goodyear stopped making that size.

 

I have the Territory AT's, the ones with the updated side wall biters. I probably have about 15000 miles on them.
Mixed feelings. Don't have a lot of tread depth for a stock AT (obviously more highway focused) and they don't look that aggressive.

I as well have concerns about durability, not that my exact situation would be survivable by anything but the toughest of tires, and even then maybe not. But I ran over that pinbar/pushbar at a stop sign, turning right, just after I started rolling from a dead stop. I didn't see it. Must have just bumped it up with the front tires and hit it with the rear. Probably going no more than 2-5mph when I rolled over it.
Right through the bottom and out the sidewall. Could have patched the hole in the bottom, but the split it made in the sidewall was un-survivable. Anecdotal at best, but so much for Kevlar helping. I am with TacoRancher that I don't trust the durability or any claims of additional Kevlar cut resistance.

For offroading, I have been through some decent enough miles of trails, gravel, old unmaintained fire roads, sandy/silty and a bit of mud. As well as a few technical courses with big slippery river rocks.
Limitation of my truck was never the stock tires on these adventures, it's been the break over angle with the factory Trail predator side steps. I was getting those things hung up on lots of stuff. But I need them for my little mini-me's until they are a bit bigger. With a lifted Jeep on 35's It gets old constantly lifting two kids in. So the predator side steps stay for now.

I think as a whole package they fall reasonably in-line with light weekend warrior offroading, but more leaning towards road/daily driver handling and fuel economy.
That said, someone here did mention highway puddle or heavy rain control. I kind of forgot about that but I agree. I do recall a few times hitting normal highway groove depth puddles and it feels like with the lack of tread depth or something, like these want to hydroplane more than any MT/AT I have ever used on my Jeeps before. Its not a good quality or feeling when it happens, especially the first time when I wasn't expecting it.

Also, they are not 3PMSF rated. Not sure if any versions are? But at least mine, and a co-worker who has the ones without the additional side wall biters, her's aren't 3PMSF rated either.
I find they are fine for spring/summer/fall for the most part, but this is going to be my last summer on them after one long adventure up to the arctic ocean, then they have to go for something that looks more aggressive, is more durable(even if only perceived), like an E rated A/T, and 3PMSF rated.

Overall I give them a rating of "ehh they are fine but I don't recommend you pay money for them". It's why money went to a bunch of other mods first.



O and for additional comedic affect, the pin bar is punctured right through the "KEVLAR" symbol on the tire.

 

Also Goodyear Kevlar OEM tires on my 19 TRD OR 4x4. I am at 37k miles and they're pretty much done. I also got uneven tread wear apparently due to mis-alignment, which is a first for me. I got the wheels aligned before getting a new set of tires. I will likely go with Michelin LTX Defenders.

 

You also have to realize that puncture resistance generally comes at a cost in rolling resistance. A puncture resistant tire likely has more rolling resistance and thus will slow you down and take your gasoline. This trade-off is super obvious to avid road bicycle riders, but often overlooked and/or misunderstood by your average taco owner as evidenced by numerous posts on here. I'm not saying you aren't aware. I'm just pointing it out in case you weren't.

I have two sets of tires, the stock wrangler A/Ts and 33" e-load M/Ts. I can subjectively feel the difference in performance between the two sets and also measure the difference in gas mileage. I'm happy to run the A/Ts in the winter when I don't wheel very much and the M/Ts in the summer when I do. Puncture resistance is not important to me on the road. I've only had a handful of puncture wounds in my lifetime.

On the other hand, I once had 20 flats in one year on my road bike. As a result I stopped running the expensive low rolling resistance racing tires and instead ran a cheaper tire that was more puncture resistant but not as fast.

It's all about trade offs.

 

For sure. I was more referencing the tires "selling point" (?) That it really leans on the Kevlar name and brand and I am really not sure as to how much benefit it actually provides when similar tread and competitive tires undercut them on price.

 

I saw the wrangler adventure today for $135 (out of stock). When I search for "265/70r16 all terrain tires" I don't see many for less than that.

https://www.discounttire.com/fitmentresult/tires/size/265-70-16?q=:bestSeller-asc:tireCategory:allTerrainTires&sort=bestSeller-asc&page=1

Note that the LT version is more expensive than the P version

 

I can't find the $135 price tonight. This is the closest thing I found. It's slightly smaller and $219.

$277+ Goodyear Wrangler All-Terrain Adventure with Kevlar Tires

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Wrangler+All-Terrain+Adventure+with+Kevlar&sidewall=Outlined White Letter&partnum=475TR6WATAOWL&tab=Sizes