What would it take?

200K more miles then I would buy a used 2020.

 

I like this. Kinda how Mazda did with the Miata. Shrunk down closer to 1st gen and they were even able to keep the weight similar to the first gen.

Definitely cool if Toyota did something similar..

 

TSS delete, no stop-start, Bison level stock armor, factory installed winch

 

disc brakes rear, Selectable ECU mode with sport, eco, & offroad modes apple carplay headunit, FLAT rear floor/removable seats. also maybe a new black out wheel would get me fired up.

 

Thats what it would take to get me to buy a 2020.
I don’t want a 2020 Tacoma. Ever. For any reason. Toyota ruined the truck.

You disagree. Great for you.

 

Five year/75K Toyota care, rear discs, top trade in value, 0% unlimited term, vin must start in 5 for me....

 

You'll have a hard time getting a new full size that hits those specs for under $40k, maybe if you go HD and get a base work truck trim.

 

I am not sure I would ever buy a Toyota again. I may be done buying any new vehicles.

Just really dislike the way my state makes consumers purchase through dealerships.

 

Residual value isn't a fictional number, it's derived from actual transaction prices, which are from supply and demand. It appears plenty of people are looking for pre-farted seats in Tacomas, and even more in FJs.

 

At one point during the FJ’s run, it had the highest resale value of any automobile on the market.

 

^Yes, because Toyota made very few changes to the FJ over the years. i.e. people are more likely to look for a 2010 FJ because it's exactly the same as a 2014 FJ. And to the laymen, even a 2007 is the same.

 

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/758444749/overview/

Found one in 30 seconds

 

New Color - Nope. New Engine - Nope. Apple Car Play - mmmm, Nope.
Kept my 2000 T4R for 17 years. No car payments makes me happier than any upgrade could.

 

See if you can get a government grant for being retarded? Try anything, just don’t go get a ford.

And yeah, Toyota totally went overboard with the pricing.

 

Lol. That’s what I’m saying. The used trucks hold their value very well which means if you buy new you still have a lot of resale value as long as you don’t overpay. A used truck with low miles is gonna be pricey from any generation.

If a person likes the 3rd gen you might as well buy new because the price a person pays for used it generally not far off from a new with used having low miles on it.

 

Toyota did some ruining. Why do you think this happened? Who and what is responsible for what tacomas are becoming?

 

My Fords have been the greatest trucks.
My Tacoma has more shit going wrong on it than my two Fords combined.

I’m not sure on their cars but I love my Ford trucks and plan to go back.

 

Bigger, possibly drilled/vented disc brakes would be nice, but I can always install those myself on my current Taco.

The only thing that would really get me thinking about it is if Toyota swapped the 2GR for an overbuilt Straight-6 that could handle some serious power increases on stock internals, and had the option for a rear-biased AWD system (Nissan ATTESA anyone?).

 

Cars.com

 

Although "illegal," my father's VW Touareg TDI was a beast. 33mpg, 5,00lb vehicle with AWD and could tow 7700lbs. After Malone tune and gutting some unecessary EPA stuff he was pushing 800ft lbs of torque. I loved that truck. And it was fast as all hell even stock. Unfortunately, I don't think Toyota could make it happen. But one could dream. I'm hopeful that the Jeep will push Ford and then Toyota to pump out a quality midsize diesel. But I won't hold my breath.