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What you need to know about lifting a 2016 Tacoma - Presented by Toytec Lifts

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Toytec Lifts, Oct 14, 2015.

  1. Nov 29, 2016 at 2:16 PM
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    brich999

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    all tore up already
    thats whack! i cant see that paper you signed being worth a damn unless it is not the original tires on the vehicle. but sports come with firestone destination LE2 which isnt a half bad tire
     
  2. Nov 29, 2016 at 3:45 PM
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    Would anyone know which OME springs to go with if you want to level out a 2016 TRD OR front suspension with the stock rear height? Would 887s do?
     
  3. Nov 29, 2016 at 11:10 PM
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    Hey,
    first of all, what kind of Tacoma do you have? is it 4wd DC or a 2wd DC? is it for the one in your profile picture? believe it or not, the 2wd vs 4wd makes a difference when lifting the front. Also, if it is a DC or AC makes a big difference. second, measure your Tacoma from the center of your wheel hub to the fender flare. That will tell you how big of a difference the front is to the back and how much lift you need.
    If you're looking to use OME Springs you will need the OME nitro shocks or the Bilstein 5100s. you can't use them on the stock shock, it can't handle it. That being said, if you're just looking to level out and not lift, go with the 5100's and use your stock coil. Since the 2016 Tacoma averages 21 in the front and 22 in the rear, if you use the 5100's for the 2016 Tacoma you will need to be on the second notch (1.1 inches) to get a somewhat level ride. If you use the 2005-2015 5100, you will need to use the first notch (.85 inches) to get a somewhat level ride... If you want to get a set of OME coils, to get a level ride you will need to use the 2884 to get a somewhat level ride. On the 2016 5100 it gives about 1.25 inches, on the 2005-2015 5100, it gives about an inch. The 2887 coil will give you about 3 inches of lift, so you will have the bro lean (higher in the front than rear) if you get them. You should also consider getting a 1/4 inch top spacer for your drivers side. My Tacoma is a the 2016 TRD off road DC 5100's and I put the 2016 5100and OME 2887 springs and the drivers side sits about 1/2 inch lower. I only noticed it by measuring after the springs settled a bit. So i need to get the 1/4 inch spacer to make up for the famous Tacolean. If you don't know, the Tacolean is from the gas tank and battery along with the drivers weight all being on the same side of the truck. It is not really noticeable when you look at it, but if you're anal like I am, you're going to want to fix it.

    The OME coils are amazing! if you plan on doing lots of off road shit, you should get them. If you plan on doing only a little, I'd say get the 5100's and use your stock coils. Also, if you get the OME coils, remember that you should only use the lowest notch on the 5100. the higher notches maybe able to handle them, but it is not advised to do so.

    The best price i have found for the 5100's is from @HeadStrong Off-Road. Talk to Marie there and she can help you pick out what you're looking for. They even have free shipping and ship to Hawaii (a must for me lol) for a great price. If you have any more questions feel free to ask me here or PM me. I'm no expert but from my trial and error, i can help you save some money and making mistakes.

    TLDR: get the 2016 5100's if you don't do much off-roading and set it at the 2nd notch. If you do, get the OME 2884 springs to get the 1 inch lift to level your front. The 2887 will be too much if you're not looking to lift your rear end.

    Have a good one
     
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  4. Nov 30, 2016 at 4:57 AM
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    ^ Excellent info right there.
     
  5. Nov 30, 2016 at 8:25 AM
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    Thank you so much for the useful information. I have a 2016 TRD OR DC. The one in my profile is my old baby which had the 5100s all around with the Toytec springs. I'm pretty familiar with the 5100s and I think they will go perfect for how much ORing I do. I was thinking about going back to using the 5100s on my new truck but leveling out the front with the stock rear, instead of doing the 3' up front and 1.5 in the rear like I did with my old truck. I will never use the stock coils ever again with the 5100s. It just made for an even stiffer ride. My question is, if I choose to go with the OME 2884, would I get any rub with running 285/70/16-17 tires? That is my ideal tire size to run. If not, would the 2887 work better with running that tire size? I am trying to go cheap as I can with a decent setup and I think 5100s would fit perfectly with my budget. Thanks again!
     
  6. Nov 30, 2016 at 8:59 AM
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    Quick question, recently leveled my 16 trdor now have the needle bearing vibe. I ordered the ecgs bushing but was curious what would be a reasonable price for a shop to do the install for me, I just want some insight before I start checking around so I don't get ripped . Im capable of doing it on my own but if the price is reasonable I would save myself the trouble.
     
  7. Nov 30, 2016 at 12:10 PM
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    did you just use blocks spaces, shocks and struts for this lift?
     
  8. Dec 1, 2016 at 11:41 AM
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    Sorry, haven't had that trouble... No idea what it would cost. If i were you, id just get a few quotes from around town and see. If it seems to much, just do it yourself. You should do a how to if you do it yourself with pictures
     
  9. Dec 1, 2016 at 11:42 AM
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    I used just 1.5 inch blocks from a spacer kit that i used before going to my current set up
     
  10. Dec 5, 2016 at 12:16 AM
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    Just an update. The front has settled a bit now so my front is now at about 23ish inches. It is a 2 inch lift from the 21 inches i started with.
     
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  11. Dec 5, 2016 at 12:41 AM
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    Which makes it still a 3" lift as the 3rd gen is an inch higher in the travel range
     
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  12. Dec 5, 2016 at 4:38 AM
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    Installed my 3rd gen 5100 with 887 and I got 2" set at 0 mark
     
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  13. Dec 5, 2016 at 10:42 AM
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    Hey guys, finally getting around to purchasing parts for my suspension lift and wanted to get some insight before I go too far down one path. On my 2016 TRDOR DCSB, I currently run a Leer camper w/ prinsu rack and bed organizer. In total, there's probably an additional 300lbs on the rear at all times compared to stock. I also plan within the next year to do a CBI rear steel bumper, CBI Aluminum Front Bumper & winch, Prinsu cab rack, and sliders.

    With that being said, my current mindset is to go 5100s all around with a dakar leaf pack replacement. I was planning on doing an 887 or 888 in the front (need help with that), but now i'm leaning towards spending the extra money and getting the 6112s in front with the same rear set up.

    Is there anything I'm missing? Thanks guys
     
  14. Dec 5, 2016 at 11:48 AM
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    First of all, do you know how much height you gained all around?

    You may want to look into getting the additional leafs for the Dakar leaf pack and RCD extended 5100s http://racecardynamics.com/shocks/9104-f4-be5-e981-t0.html to make up for the extra height you will get from the Dakar leaf and extra leaf. You may see a dip if you load anything more than 300 lbs. Try it without first, and order more when needed. If you go the 5100 route, you will need the 2886 coils. That is rated for both bar and winch set ups. In fact, you may want to look into getting the full ARB/OME set up. Here is the link to their recommended set ups for the 2016. : http://www.arbusa.com/Uploads/PDF/newProductAdvice/2016/OME_2016_On_Toyota_Tacoma.pdf

    if you go with the 6112, wait for the 2016 ones to come out. They should be on sale soon. BUT it will sag with a bumper and winch about an inch and according to Bilstein, you shouldn't use a spacer to make up for the weight. You maybe stuck going with the OME nitrocharger and 2886 coil or go with the 5100 with the 2886.
     
  15. Dec 5, 2016 at 12:19 PM
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    Thank you for the response, helps a lot to look at what ARB recommends and the option to add/remove a leaf in the Dakar pack. Didn't know this was a feature.

    I think I am at the same point as a lot of other users where the 6112s might be overkill. It makes more sense to me running 5100s all around with 887s in the front until I get the bumper/winch set up, then do a coil swap to 886s.

    Your comment about the extended 5100s with the dakar pack makes me also think there might be a better option out for the rear?
     
  16. Dec 5, 2016 at 12:26 PM
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    I am getting ready to order my lift (887s on 5100s). My question is what would everyone suggest, the 3rd gen 5100s or the old 2nd gen ones. I figured with the new springs they might be better matched with with the 2nd gen 5100s. But I'm not sure.
     
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  17. Dec 5, 2016 at 1:55 PM
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    Sorry, i may have now explained it enough. You don't really need the extended but for the extra travel and lift you will gain it might be something to consider. You would be fine with what you have now. Just the extended will give you extra travel. The regular 5100s recommended for around a 1-1.5 inch lift. The extended all for around a 4-6 inch lift. It depends on how much height you gain from the Dakar leaf pack and the additional leaf spring.

    Hope this helps.
     
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  18. Dec 5, 2016 at 1:59 PM
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    I spoke with Bilstein and according to them, even though there is a little less travel in the 2016 5100 model, you don't lose anything when compared to the 05-2015 model. the reason is, the new tacoma sits about .5-1 inch higher already, the 2016 model accounts for this in its design. The 05-15 model doesn't. When installed with the stock spring from the 2016, it already gains around 1 inch of height which in turn, takes away from that 1 inch of additional travel. As you go higher with the different notches, same thing applies. you "lose" some of the travel length. Hope this makes sense.
     
  19. Dec 5, 2016 at 4:59 PM
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    Thank you for the reply. I was also wondering about the spring rate of the 887s, I was under the impression that they are rated closer to what the 2nd gen trucks spring rate than the 3rd gen.
     
  20. Dec 5, 2016 at 11:53 PM
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    They are "rated" the same when it comes to spring rate. They are just a little bit longer. Here is a guide for all ARB/OME stuff. http://www.arbusa.com/Uploads/PDF/onlineManualsGuides/OME_Guide_current.pdf The springs start on page 136 hope this helps
     
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