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What you need to know about lifting a 2016 Tacoma - Presented by Toytec Lifts

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by Toytec Lifts, Oct 14, 2015.

  1. Nov 4, 2016 at 12:35 PM
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    Caddis

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    I'll add that option into my decision. what do you dislike about the block in the rear? I'm going back and forth on the stock Springs, or just doing the 885. I have less than 2000 miles on my truck now. Should I use the stock Springs till they wear out, or just change them out the first time? I know this has probably been hashed out 1000 times. I just don't wan to regret my choice
     
  2. Nov 4, 2016 at 1:02 PM
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    If your just wanting to level your truck do stock coil with 5100s set at second notch .85, you will not need anything for the rear unless you just want 5100s on the rear too (no lift) you will also need 1/4 " spacer driver side for lean. I have 885 coilsTacoma new tires 1.jpg brand new in box sitting in my garage and 1" block for rear but decided to go with stock off road coils with 5100s set at second notch 1/2" inch spacer driver side 1/4" spacer passenger side 5100s in rear (no lift) get about 1 1/2" front. Measures 22 1/2" all around and rides great. There is about a million ways to lift! Good luck!
     
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  3. Nov 4, 2016 at 1:02 PM
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    I just took a minute and Googled "Lift block vs AAL".
    Do that. It looks like there's a good amount of information there. I'll be doing it when I have more time.
    I'm wanting nominal lift; level is less concern to me. LEVEL is what I want to see when I have both the shell and 300lbs of trailer tongue weight.
    I previously installed a set of sumosprings.
     
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  4. Nov 4, 2016 at 2:42 PM
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    If I had to do it over again, I'd go 887 or 888 and a Deaver leaf pack in the rear... Which I'm really considering.. You'll def need a UCA at that height
     
  5. Nov 4, 2016 at 3:44 PM
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    The 5100's are firmer than my SR stock shocks. I'm running 885 springs which are lighter rate than factory. The 5100's are a bit firm for my liking on the back roads where I live, but great on the road. The Sport shocks might ride better. I'm running a 1" rear block, and there isn't any more axle wrap than stock, I'd be hesitant with any block over 1". The factory leafs don't do much to battle axle wrap.

    If you are not looking for a huge lift, a top plate spacer would be a good option to get it up in the air about an 1" or so.
     
  6. Nov 4, 2016 at 9:26 PM
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    I really appreciate your guys response to my question. I should be doing my lift around December. I'll keep you posted
     
  7. Nov 5, 2016 at 10:04 PM
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    Is some differences if u do the alignment in off road shop or a shop like sear or Costco after you lift the truck ?
    I try to install 5100 and 2"lift front and maybe aal back or 1 block
     
  8. Nov 8, 2016 at 8:19 AM
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  9. Nov 9, 2016 at 3:13 PM
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    I wouldn't put that much lift above strut. Go with Revtek or Bilstien for a combination lift if going inexpensive route. .....Figure about $300 to $480 for install including front end alignment.

    Also, if your TRD is not a 4×4 no need for drop diff spacers. (I know that goes without saying)
     
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  10. Nov 9, 2016 at 5:22 PM
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    I’m in the process of buying a new 2017 Tacoma TRD Offroad Double Cab/ Short Bed 4x2.

    I’m interested in improving the suspension and lifting/ leveling the truck. I’d like to achieve the look of the truck in the attached image while improving the ride on road and during light offroading.

    Anyway, I am considering Bilstein 6112’s up front set to the 3rd setting, which best I can tell offered about 2 inches of lift on a 4x2. Considering that the backend is already about an inch higher on 3rd generation Tacos, would I need to install Bilstein 5100’s on the back? What’s the best option for the back suspension (AAL? Shocks? Nothing?) to get the truck completely level and fit tires / wheels in the 285/70R17 or 285/75R16 range?

    I also spoke with a rep from Eibach at SEMA and he showed me their new adjustable ride height shocks. I think these would be a less expensive option, but the size of the Bilstein 6112 makes me think that those must provide a pretty smooth ride. I’m more interested in quality ride / appearance than anything else.

    That said, I would like to avoid Upper control arms in the front…really just looking to make a brand new truck ride even better than factory and have a slightly lifted/ leveled/ wider stance without throwing off anything or causing problems.

    Any advise?

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  11. Nov 10, 2016 at 11:33 AM
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    I know I'm not the only one running 5100's with OME 887 coils up front so I'm wondering if anyone else has this issue. Whenever I'm going over bumps or off-road I get a very annoying squeaking sound from the front. I'm also running SPC UCA's in case that matters. Any ideas what could be causing it from the sound clip I've made?

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/cRFTYASYDu8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
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  12. Nov 12, 2016 at 7:35 AM
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    Had Toyota install my lift. King/total chaos uca/Dakar and my check engine light and trac off light keep coming on after 100 miles or so. Took it back to toyota and they checked everything and said it's alright and cleared the light. Now it just came back on. Has anyone else delt with this?

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  13. Nov 12, 2016 at 7:52 AM
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    I remember reading about this in a 3rd gen sometime back. I believe the shop had busted another members sensor.
     
  14. Nov 12, 2016 at 11:09 AM
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    Had this happen in my 2006 4Runner. Pulled the ABS sensor wire too hard and it broke. They're pretty fragile. Could be it.
     
  15. Nov 13, 2016 at 10:59 AM
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    What front coil over do you guys suggest for just doing about a 1"-1.5" lift on the front? The only reason for such a small lift is because I will be adding a low profile bumper and winch. Will I need to change rear shocks as well? I don't want to lose any travel so I'm not sure what all is needed with a very small lift. Also I want the softest/smoothest riding setup I can get. Money is of no concern......if I have to spend 2k on coil overs to get what I want then so be it.
     
  16. Nov 13, 2016 at 1:13 PM
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    Hey man,

    I'm about to install that exact set up soon. how much lift did you get out of it? did you leave it at the 0 notch?

    also about that sound, I had it with just a 3 inch toytec spacer lift. check your lower control arm bushings. Mine is from the front lower bushing and mount getting fucked up from one bad off road trip. IDK if you had any accidents bottoming out but that could be it. I had to change the front lower control arm bushing on my drivers side and bed the lower control arm mount back to its original shape. IDK if this helps but let me know if you find out anything
     
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  17. Nov 14, 2016 at 1:22 AM
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    Hi everyone, complete noob as far as lifts go, but very proficient in car/truck repair/maintenance in general(though I'm not a mechanic)
    I'm looking for a level kit with 2" lift max, I'm mainly wanting a more stout ride, my sport is a bit sloppy at highway speeds, I'm willing to sacrifice some comfort for stability. I'm mainly just puttering around town and to work and back, may do some mild off roading, but not too concerned with that at this point. I was looking at this kit, can anyone recommend this or advise against? Is there a better setup that's similarly priced?
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/162278720560
     
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  18. Nov 14, 2016 at 2:16 AM
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    Hey man, that is a great set up you have planned and will work fine for what you're thinking about. I did the same thing but instead of preloading the stock springs (which is fine, I didn't notice a difference in ride quality even though everyone said I might) I finally decided to take it up a notch and added the ARB 2887 coils to my front struts. This allowed me to keep the 5100's on the lowest notch (0) and still get a 2.25 inch ride height out of it. It also made the ride quality better off road. they were not that expensive and really made a difference both on and off road. I would recommend this set up to anyone looking for a lift and better performance. It really handles everything i can throw at it for a really good price.

    here is a link to the 2887s: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ARB-2887-Bl...ash=item25a384ce2f:g:MWQAAOSwNSxVGcQr&vxp=mtr

    Don't get me wrong, preloading the springs will work just fine for a 2 inch up front. But if you want to take it to the next level with your on and off road performance, add the 2887's, i promise you won't regret it.

    If you don't mind me making a suggestion, try checking Amazon warehouse deals. I was able to get my 5160's for a steal. In case you don't know, amazon warehouse is a place that amazon sells things people returned. everything is in perfect working condition and all warranties stay in tact. For my 5160's, i paid just over 100 each. well worth the cost tbh. I even got new KYB strut mounts for 22 bucks each. this allowed me to keep my stock coils in tact so i can sell them or reinstall them later if i feel like it. They even have the lift blocks for the back for a good price every now and then. I think there are some up now if you take a look. Just fyi, most things from the 2005+ tacoma 6lug will work with the 2016 when it comes to suspension. The 5100's work as well, though the valving is different and you will void the Bilstein warranty if you use it on the 2016.

    Let me know if you have any more questions. I would be happy to make suggestions or help you in anyway I can. Just PM me. I can also give you some advice on installing them if you need.
     
  19. Nov 14, 2016 at 6:42 AM
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    Thanks for the tip I'll definitely check that out. I got about 2 inches and yes I'm at the 0 notch.
     
  20. Nov 14, 2016 at 7:30 AM
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    all tore up already
    cannot get over how much the ECGS bushing helped. truck is smooth as can be now(for a truck) and i cant believe i waited so long with that piss poor needle bearing in there. the play in it was amazing, never measured but id guess 20-30 thousandths, now everything is tight and proper. had i waited much longer i think a new axle would have been required. everyone lifted and even those who arent should seriously consider replacing that bearing
     
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