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What you need to know about lifting a 2016 Tacoma - Presented by Toytec Lifts

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by Toytec Lifts, Oct 14, 2015.

  1. Jun 15, 2017 at 9:19 AM
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    cparkphoto

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    @TOYTEC or anyone else. Could you offer up some advice on leaf packs? I have a 2016 DCLB TRDOR. About a year or so ago I installed an icon stage 1 kit with the addition of their add a leaf pack. For the most part I've been loving this setup. The truck is a daily driver but I take it on a few long trips a year that involve a lot of dirt roads. Either baja trips or trips up to the pacific northwest and canada.
    The main issue I'm having is I feel like with the longbed and shell on Im starting to sag a bit in the back. Im a photographer and regularly load the truck up with about 500 lbs of equipment when heading to a job. With that load I definitely sag in the back. Long story short... would a dakar leaf pack be too much rear lift for me? Thanks!!

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  2. Jun 15, 2017 at 11:43 AM
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    Just an FYI, the add a leafs decrease payload. I've heard people pull a leaf out of the dakar leaf pack to drop it down some if it's too high in the rear. The dakars are rated for more weight, but Toytec would be able give you specifics, or ARB, who makes the dakar packs.
     
  3. Jun 16, 2017 at 5:03 AM
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    Gramps

    Gramps My walker is faster than your Prius!

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    Stock leaf packs even with an AAL cannot handle much payload. You need to look into a new leaf pack designed for a higher payload while maintaining a decent empty bed ride. Brands like Dakar, All Pro, and Deaver all make leaf packs for this. Or if you really want to dial it in, you can get custom leaf packs specific to what you want the bed to be able to handle. Alcan and Deaver will do custom sets.
     
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  4. Jun 16, 2017 at 11:03 AM
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    Thanks @Gramps I figured thats the route i need to go. What would you recommend in my case? "Empty" I carry the snugtop shell, roughly 4 gallons of water, an ARB CKMP12 compressor, small toolkit, and a wooden sleeping platform made from 2- 2x6's and 3/4"ply. Im inclined to order the Dakar light duty springs. Would I need to replace my rear icons with extended travel versions as well as extended brake lines or would I most likely still fall within range of what I have? Thanks again for the help, wish someone had steered me in this direction when i first retooled the suspension..
     
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  5. Jun 16, 2017 at 12:52 PM
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    If you're going to be doing relatively heavy off roading where your rear wheels will be articulating a lot you will need extended travel rear shocks and extended break lines. If not, you should be fine with your existing equipment.
     
  6. Jun 16, 2017 at 4:23 PM
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    Gramps

    Gramps My walker is faster than your Prius!

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    I agree with this. The only thing to make sure is that you are also properly bump stopped so you do not use the shock as your bump stop. Are your factory bumps still in place?
     
  7. Jun 16, 2017 at 9:32 PM
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    Factory bump stops are still there. I'm not crawling anything where I would need to really stuff and articulate. I've certainly taken the truck to a few tricky places in Baja and Northern California but for the most part I'm dealing with washboard roads and moon dust sand down south. I'm going to give the new dakars a shot and if I decide I need to swap out the rear shocks it'll be a good excuse to upgrade to a remote reservoir shock. Think I need something larger than the factory bumps?
     
  8. Jun 17, 2017 at 5:12 AM
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    Gramps

    Gramps My walker is faster than your Prius!

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    The Dakars do allow for more travel. Are you running 10" travel shocks now or 8"?
     
  9. Jun 17, 2017 at 7:21 AM
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    I believe I am running the 56503. I can find full specs on them anywhere online. If I need to swap out rear shocks too what would you recommend? Thanks for all the help
     
  10. Jun 17, 2017 at 7:31 AM
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    Gramps

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    Dakar work great with a 10" travel shocks in the factory locations. You will get more droop from them and you will not be limited by the shocks extension. My understanding is they work with the factory bump stop as well. As far as recommendations on brands and types I need to know what you are running up front for a failover. Shocks actually need to complement each other otherwise you might not get the best ride.
     
  11. Jun 17, 2017 at 7:57 AM
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    Tough to figure out exactly what components were installed. I had the shop build it out before the listed 3rd gen specific kits were available so icon sent what they recommended at the time. Receipt with components listed below. My coil has 158504 listed on it which I believe is a 13" 650lb spring. Kit looks to be k53001.
     
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  12. Jun 17, 2017 at 7:46 PM
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    Anyone here do just a 2" lift in the front and be able to run 33"s. Im not a fan of the 3" lift look. My plan is to get the fox or iconn coilovers and rear shocks. Purchased from toytec of course.
     
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  13. Jun 22, 2017 at 5:34 PM
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    I received some good information here when doing all my lift research. Here is what I finally ended up with:

    3-1/4" Front with Bilstein Gen. 2 5100s (set to 0), OME 888 coils, and LR Upper Control Arms
    2" Rear with Headstrong Progressive AAL with Overload still in
    4Runner TRD Pro wheels (I believe 17x7 or 8?) Im thinking of getting SpiderTrax 1-1/4" wheel spacers....
    BF Goodrich 275/70/17 K"Bro"2 tires (just under 33")

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    A year later, I had to make changes so I could live with this taco...

    With a 275 70 17 tire you can make it work fine with a 2 inch lift. However, the third gen is a gutless pig and bigger, heavier tires suck out what little life there is under the hood and the taller tires make the gearing situation miserable.

    I went down from the load range E 275 70 17 bfg KO2 to load range D BFG KO2 265 70 17. I also have a little more rake as I don't have the front up as high as when the bigger tires were on(that may change a little, because it can with adjustable coilovers, since I don't want to mess with the Dakars in the back). The ride is better with the notably softer tires and there's a difference in the Icon's response with less thread showing. I get better fuel economy(still miserable in relation to power output) and the ride is better overall.

    Free Advice: Steer clear of anything load range E and get the smallest tires you can live with.

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  15. Jul 1, 2017 at 6:08 PM
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    Any recommendations on rear shock lengths to go with a 3 inch lift Deavers U402's, I will be running Ext. Kings up front
     
  16. Jul 6, 2017 at 6:23 AM
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    Are the rear bilstein 5100's compatible with dakars or do I need to go with a longer length shock? (Sorry i come from a world of lowering cars so this is a whole new ballgame for me)
     
  17. Jul 12, 2017 at 12:08 AM
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    What about a diff drop with a fox 2.5 lift for a 16 TRD Offroad? I know people say you don't need them, but wouldn't it help, even if just a little? Sorry if this sounds like a noob post, it's just that I'm a noob.
     
  18. Jul 16, 2017 at 8:42 AM
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    Planning on adding SCS F5 wheels with 295/70/16....anyone on here running this specific lift with said details. Thanks in advance and pic for attention ;)


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  19. Jul 18, 2017 at 10:57 AM
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    Thank you for this. So If I wanted to go with the Bilstein 5100's and the 888 setup. What do you do for the rears to keep it level? I'm somewhat of a noob with lifts as well. I've only got 23k miles on my truck. Do I have to do Bilstein 5100s? Can I just add the springs to the truck or do I have to do bilstein 5100's as well?
     
  20. Jul 18, 2017 at 8:00 PM
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    I would highly suggest getting the matching 5100 rear shocks as well if you do the OME 888 with 5100s on lowest setting up front. I have that setup, along with a progressive AAL and left the Overload Leaf in. If you take it out, you will not be level (with my experience). Also, you should look into new upper control arms if you are doing the 888s...

    My setup:
    2nd Gen Bil 5100s (all around) on lowest setting (second gen has longer travel and a longer extension aka droop. However, dont expect much droop with that high of a lift. Going over a speed bump I sometimes top out my front shocks)
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    Sway bar relocation from Toytec

    Came out to be around $1300 shipped, take out $450ish for upper control arms if you don't like having an aligned front end.

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