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What you need to know about lifting a 2016 Tacoma - Presented by Toytec Lifts

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by Toytec Lifts, Oct 14, 2015.

  1. May 4, 2019 at 7:44 PM
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    CygnusX191

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    Stock Sport suspension is also Hitachi but I'm guessing it's tuned very differently than the limited.
     
  2. May 5, 2019 at 10:31 AM
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    Jrgymie

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    Thought I would share some information regarding setting preload for coilovers and how to estimate your spring rate for your truck.

    The amount of preload for a given truck is unique to the weight of the truck and the owner's preference for ride hide (i.e., you have to install it and adjust it accordingly). Every truck will have a different amount of preload and will depend on 3 main factors:
    1) coil spring rate 2) lift height 3) truck weight.

    As you add weight to the truck, the amount of preload will go up for a given lift height at a constant spring rate.

    The 600 lb/in coils are a good spring rate for most STOCK Tacomas even with about 100-300 lbs of added armor/bumpers, etc. Also, you ALWAYS want a small amount of preload to a spring with a coilover and should aim to have about 3 inches of compression of a mounted spring AT RIDE HIDE (i.e. the spring is compressed about 1/2 of its entire compressible length). This will allow the spring to have an equal amount of up & down travel when driving down the road and allow your expensive aftermarket shocks to work fully to give a smooth ride. Many people opted for the heavier spring rates to get the most amount of lift but then therefore limit the amount of down travel to an inch or 2 and make for an extremely stiff ride (also because it is a stiffer spring, the spring less able to compress on the down travel).

    You can not determine the amount of preload measured from the visible threads (the amount of threads showing will be a different preload setting for each coilover).

    PRELOAD = (spring free length) - (spring length when shock fully extended)

    The "(spring free length)" in Fox coilovers for Tacoma are 13" (King's are 14"). Once your coilover is installed jack up the truck so the tire is off the ground and the coil over is fully extended. Measure from the top of the coil spring (NOT the spring adjustable collar) to the bottom of coil spring. This is your "(spring length when shock fully extended)". If it measures 11", your PRELOAD would be 2".

    Again, every truck will have a different lift height for a given coil over and specific preload so you just have to install them to see where your ride height is adjust accordingly. For most Fox 2.5 coilovers, the max preload is around 2 1/4"-2.5"

    Here is a good general guideline for the spring rates that I copied from ACCUTUNE's article (see below).

    The coil spring length found in the Fox 2.5 coilovers are usually 13" (King's are 14") but you can purchase 14" 600 lb/in, 650 lb/in, or 700 lb/in coils and exchange them in your coilover if your current set up is too soft due to increased weight on the truck.

    They can be purchased on summitracing.com or wheelersoffroad.com:

    Eibach 1400.300.0650S Offroad Coilover Spring, 650 lbs/in, 3.0 ID
    Eibach 1400.300.0600S Offroad Coilover Spring, 600 lbs/in, 3.0 ID


    Spring Rate Recommendations for 2-2.5” lift:


    [​IMG]
    13” x 600 lb/in Spring:
    Standard on:

    -Fox Tacoma Coilovers

    -Mods: sliders, skid plates

    -Min installed length: 11-3/8” 1

    [​IMG]
    14” x 600 lb/in Spring:
    Standard on:

    -Fox 4Runner

    -King Tacoma & 4Runner

    -Mods: sliders, skid plates, light bumper, & light winch

    -Min installed length: 11-3/8” 1

    [​IMG]
    14” x 650 lb/in Spring:
    Optional on:

    -All Fox (pay for spring)

    -All King (free, sometimes longer lead time)

    -Mods: sliders, skid plates, steel bumper, winch, dual batteries

    -Min installed length: 11-3/4” 1

    [​IMG]
    14” x 700 lb/in Spring:
    Optional on:

    -All Fox (pay for spring)

    -All King (free, sometimes longer lead time)

    -Mods: sliders, skid plates, steel bumper, winch, dual batteries, bed rack, roof top tent, additional armor (weight?)

    -Min installed length: 11-3/4” 1
     
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  3. May 5, 2019 at 2:08 PM
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    JARStacoma

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    I have sliders and my OR sat at 20.5 in the front before as well. I think that brought my rear down a tiny bit as well. Even though it’s evenly distributed I bet it still has a small effect.
     
  4. May 5, 2019 at 2:09 PM
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    JARStacoma

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    Awesome! Great info!
     
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  5. May 10, 2019 at 11:45 AM
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    ajsandiego

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    Man - there's a ton of great info out here. Thanks everyone!

    Hoping for some input. Current setup is '18 DBCD 2wd SR5 w/5100s all around - Method 701s w/Falken Wildpeak 265/75/16s . Front set to adjustment is set the 2" setting and the truck is level. Had them on for a few months and its time to replace the springs up front and eliminate the preload. Other than the 5100s, nothing done to the rear. I'd like to keep it that way (if possible) as I only raised the front to level the truck. Only off-roading we do it to the MTB trails ie nothing hectic. No plans for adding a lot of weight up front. OME 887s? 888s? TIA folks. You've been amazing so far.
     
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  6. May 10, 2019 at 1:23 PM
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    2016 Bilstein 5100's OME 887s 5160's in rear 265/75/r16 BFG KO2

    Got 5100 with 2887 in front and 5160 with 2 inch aal in rear. Only thing about going 2 inch without lifting the rear is you will brolean(higher in front than back) if you like that look than no problem, if not, then you may want to lift the rear. I like the slight rake cus whenever I off road, I load the back with lots of weight (camping gear, coolers, ect). If you're not adding weight to front (wench,bumper ect) 2887 are the way to go. Have good ride and such.
     
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  7. May 10, 2019 at 6:12 PM
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    Thanks for this. The 2887s add more than 2" of lift up front? No brolean for me yo haha.
     
  8. May 10, 2019 at 6:48 PM
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    After settling they are at 2 inch. They were a bit more at the beginning but after a few days they were fine
     
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  9. May 10, 2019 at 9:06 PM
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    Thank you!
     
  10. May 11, 2019 at 12:55 AM
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    Lift them up

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  11. May 11, 2019 at 3:58 AM
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    If you don’t want to lift the rear and want a level truck with springs at non-preload spring rates (600), get 885’s and a 1/4” spacer for the driver side.
     
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  12. Jun 8, 2019 at 1:17 PM
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    So I’m wanting to do the fox 3inch in the front and 2inch aal rear on my 2016 Tacoma 4x4 OR. Question is do I need the front diff drop or sway bar relocate or even the rear shims? I am Going to do uca’s. Thanks!
     
  13. Jun 8, 2019 at 2:16 PM
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    Generally speaking, once you hit 2.5 inches of front lift you're gonna want that front diff drop.

    Ditch the sway bar. Don't need it for off roading anyways :D
     
  14. Jun 8, 2019 at 3:07 PM
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  15. Jun 8, 2019 at 4:40 PM
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    +1 for the removal of said sway bar.
     
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  16. Jun 8, 2019 at 9:31 PM
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    The goal of certain high ranking members of the St. Louis crowd... To rid the world of sway-bars
     
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  17. Jun 8, 2019 at 10:22 PM
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    I was at 23.5” hub to fender and my cv fins were rubbing on both inner and outer boots. I swapped out the coils and brought it down to exactly 23” hub to fender and am sitting just right with the cv’s. It was pretty amazing seeing the difference that 1/2” made. My ride quality also improved. I did not do the bushing swap. I do have one in hand but ran out of time. I however noticed a slight vibration at 23.5” but rides smooth at 23”. So in conclusion two inches worked out perfectly for me over stock. I am personally at 2.5” lift due to being a little under average from stock at 20.5” on my dblcab OR.
     
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  18. Aug 10, 2019 at 3:25 PM
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    I'm not seeing the spec sheet...
     
  19. Sep 22, 2019 at 9:08 AM
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    Would having a toyota dealership do the lift make any difference down the road??
     
  20. Sep 22, 2019 at 9:29 AM
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    What happened to the spec sheet for the spring rates?
     
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