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What you need to know about lifting a 2016 Tacoma - Presented by Toytec Lifts

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by Toytec Lifts, Oct 14, 2015.

  1. May 4, 2019 at 1:17 AM
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    JARStacoma

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    I have the HS 3leaf as well. I have OL out and sit 1.5 higher in the rear. I’m currently at 23.5 rear. Did u get full 2” with OL in? How is the ride with the OL in place? Thanks for your measurements. Do you have a side profile pic and tires your running?
     
  2. May 4, 2019 at 3:33 AM
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    my understanding is that the OL leaf really doesn't do much unless it is engaged. it shouldn't change your ride quality.
     
  3. May 4, 2019 at 6:37 AM
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    The overall ride is way better than the stock limited suspension. I did get a full 2” with overload in.
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  4. May 4, 2019 at 7:44 AM
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    Man that looks Rock solid. What size tires you running?
     
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  5. May 4, 2019 at 10:03 AM
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    Thanks! I appreciate it! They are Falken Wildpeak 275/65/18
     
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  6. May 4, 2019 at 11:33 AM
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    Noice. Just noticed that is a Limited with the fancy lights too....
     
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  7. May 4, 2019 at 2:40 PM
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    Looks great. So your front end is sitting at 23” hub/fender? Thanks for the photo!
     
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  8. May 4, 2019 at 5:02 PM
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    Thanks! Yup right at 23”
     
  9. May 4, 2019 at 5:22 PM
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  10. May 4, 2019 at 6:06 PM
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    Thank you sir!
     
  11. May 4, 2019 at 6:10 PM
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    I wonder if the OR hub to fender is higher than the Limited in the rear? stock is supposed to be 22” in rear. I also heard people saying that they had a factory shim in their packs they found upon installing there leafs. I def. did not have a factory shim in mine.
     
  12. May 4, 2019 at 7:39 PM
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    Not sure. I measured 20.5 in front and 21 rear before lift. That was also with sliders, tonneau and I forgot I also have a Borla S-Type exhaust(not sure if that weighs more than stock). Enough for the 1” difference? Maybe. I know the stock limited suspension is hitachi but not sure if it sits lower to begin with. Also no shims here.
     
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    Stock Sport suspension is also Hitachi but I'm guessing it's tuned very differently than the limited.
     
  14. May 5, 2019 at 10:31 AM
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    Thought I would share some information regarding setting preload for coilovers and how to estimate your spring rate for your truck.

    The amount of preload for a given truck is unique to the weight of the truck and the owner's preference for ride hide (i.e., you have to install it and adjust it accordingly). Every truck will have a different amount of preload and will depend on 3 main factors:
    1) coil spring rate 2) lift height 3) truck weight.

    As you add weight to the truck, the amount of preload will go up for a given lift height at a constant spring rate.

    The 600 lb/in coils are a good spring rate for most STOCK Tacomas even with about 100-300 lbs of added armor/bumpers, etc. Also, you ALWAYS want a small amount of preload to a spring with a coilover and should aim to have about 3 inches of compression of a mounted spring AT RIDE HIDE (i.e. the spring is compressed about 1/2 of its entire compressible length). This will allow the spring to have an equal amount of up & down travel when driving down the road and allow your expensive aftermarket shocks to work fully to give a smooth ride. Many people opted for the heavier spring rates to get the most amount of lift but then therefore limit the amount of down travel to an inch or 2 and make for an extremely stiff ride (also because it is a stiffer spring, the spring less able to compress on the down travel).

    You can not determine the amount of preload measured from the visible threads (the amount of threads showing will be a different preload setting for each coilover).

    PRELOAD = (spring free length) - (spring length when shock fully extended)

    The "(spring free length)" in Fox coilovers for Tacoma are 13" (King's are 14"). Once your coilover is installed jack up the truck so the tire is off the ground and the coil over is fully extended. Measure from the top of the coil spring (NOT the spring adjustable collar) to the bottom of coil spring. This is your "(spring length when shock fully extended)". If it measures 11", your PRELOAD would be 2".

    Again, every truck will have a different lift height for a given coil over and specific preload so you just have to install them to see where your ride height is adjust accordingly. For most Fox 2.5 coilovers, the max preload is around 2 1/4"-2.5"

    Here is a good general guideline for the spring rates that I copied from ACCUTUNE's article (see below).

    The coil spring length found in the Fox 2.5 coilovers are usually 13" (King's are 14") but you can purchase 14" 600 lb/in, 650 lb/in, or 700 lb/in coils and exchange them in your coilover if your current set up is too soft due to increased weight on the truck.

    They can be purchased on summitracing.com or wheelersoffroad.com:

    Eibach 1400.300.0650S Offroad Coilover Spring, 650 lbs/in, 3.0 ID
    Eibach 1400.300.0600S Offroad Coilover Spring, 600 lbs/in, 3.0 ID


    Spring Rate Recommendations for 2-2.5” lift:


    [​IMG]
    13” x 600 lb/in Spring:
    Standard on:

    -Fox Tacoma Coilovers

    -Mods: sliders, skid plates

    -Min installed length: 11-3/8” 1

    [​IMG]
    14” x 600 lb/in Spring:
    Standard on:

    -Fox 4Runner

    -King Tacoma & 4Runner

    -Mods: sliders, skid plates, light bumper, & light winch

    -Min installed length: 11-3/8” 1

    [​IMG]
    14” x 650 lb/in Spring:
    Optional on:

    -All Fox (pay for spring)

    -All King (free, sometimes longer lead time)

    -Mods: sliders, skid plates, steel bumper, winch, dual batteries

    -Min installed length: 11-3/4” 1

    [​IMG]
    14” x 700 lb/in Spring:
    Optional on:

    -All Fox (pay for spring)

    -All King (free, sometimes longer lead time)

    -Mods: sliders, skid plates, steel bumper, winch, dual batteries, bed rack, roof top tent, additional armor (weight?)

    -Min installed length: 11-3/4” 1
     
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  15. May 5, 2019 at 2:08 PM
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    I have sliders and my OR sat at 20.5 in the front before as well. I think that brought my rear down a tiny bit as well. Even though it’s evenly distributed I bet it still has a small effect.
     
  16. May 5, 2019 at 2:09 PM
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    Awesome! Great info!
     
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  17. May 10, 2019 at 11:45 AM
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    Man - there's a ton of great info out here. Thanks everyone!

    Hoping for some input. Current setup is '18 DBCD 2wd SR5 w/5100s all around - Method 701s w/Falken Wildpeak 265/75/16s . Front set to adjustment is set the 2" setting and the truck is level. Had them on for a few months and its time to replace the springs up front and eliminate the preload. Other than the 5100s, nothing done to the rear. I'd like to keep it that way (if possible) as I only raised the front to level the truck. Only off-roading we do it to the MTB trails ie nothing hectic. No plans for adding a lot of weight up front. OME 887s? 888s? TIA folks. You've been amazing so far.
     
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  18. May 10, 2019 at 1:23 PM
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    Got 5100 with 2887 in front and 5160 with 2 inch aal in rear. Only thing about going 2 inch without lifting the rear is you will brolean(higher in front than back) if you like that look than no problem, if not, then you may want to lift the rear. I like the slight rake cus whenever I off road, I load the back with lots of weight (camping gear, coolers, ect). If you're not adding weight to front (wench,bumper ect) 2887 are the way to go. Have good ride and such.
     
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  19. May 10, 2019 at 6:12 PM
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    Thanks for this. The 2887s add more than 2" of lift up front? No brolean for me yo haha.
     
  20. May 10, 2019 at 6:48 PM
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    After settling they are at 2 inch. They were a bit more at the beginning but after a few days they were fine
     
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