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What you need to know about lifting a 2016 Tacoma - Presented by Toytec Lifts

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by Toytec Lifts, Oct 14, 2015.

  1. Mar 14, 2016 at 1:17 PM
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    That's helpful. I called a nearby Toyota dealership and they do leveling kits adjustable up to like 2 1/2" (I think, the dude talked real fast). I asked if this would be covered by the warranty and he said if they did the work that that dealership would honor the warranty but that he could see other dealerships not replacing parts that might fail related to the lift parts because it wasn't their work.

    With that said. Does a leveling kit make a noticeable difference in height and will I be able to fit larger tires on it without issue? Or should I just suck up and drop $1500 on lift and say F*** the suspension warranty?
     
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  2. Mar 14, 2016 at 1:32 PM
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    People are using the 2nd Gen 5100s set at .85 (stock springs) to get level with nothing done to the rear. 2016 5100s still in development but may not be THAT different? Who knows.
    Part number for the current 5100s that people are using on the 2016 is 24-239370.
     
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  3. Mar 14, 2016 at 2:02 PM
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    So Toyota dealership saying suspension is same as 15's is wrong? Lol imagine that! Well I guess since they put my 5100's on they are going to honor the warranty!
     
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  4. Mar 14, 2016 at 2:10 PM
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    I asked mine about lifts and they said they would only do level kits and that I was on my own with the lift.
     
  5. Mar 14, 2016 at 2:12 PM
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    Mine is already done by dealership and service manager told me suspension was same as 2015. I'm not worried about as the said since they put it on that its covered. Guess we will see how long these 5100's hold out!
     
  6. Mar 14, 2016 at 2:16 PM
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    you have a service manager that wanted your money!! HA HA AH the suspension on the 2016 is different, see the first post of this thread
     
  7. Mar 14, 2016 at 3:17 PM
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    I don't care about money was only $350.00 with alignment to install my bought lift and UCA's. All I care about is being covered.
     
  8. Mar 14, 2016 at 3:20 PM
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    to many to list, check the build thread
    did you get anything in writing?
     
  9. Mar 14, 2016 at 3:27 PM
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    No one better I have sheet of worked performed by dealership where I bought the truck! Anyway struts wear out and when they do I will put ones on it for year. Not worried about it! Looks good and rides better than stock.
     
  10. Mar 14, 2016 at 5:45 PM
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    I installed 5100s in the front at setting 1.75 with stock springs (717lbs rating according to this forum) on my 2016 TRD OR. I left the back stock. It definitely lifted the front and leveled the truck out. I drove the truck over 200 miles and went off roading in Anza Borrego desert this past weekend. It felt slightly stiffer than stock, I enjoyed the added ground clearance. Besides that, the shocks performed well and the front wasn't any bouncier than the stock shocks. I took pictures of the shocks side by side. As you can see the 2016 springs took 4 spring compressors to get down while the previous 2015 Tacoma springs were much easier to compress. Apologies for angled picture post-lift, I am unable to take another one at the moment. Bilstein puts a lifetime warranty on their shocks. Also, when they DO come out for specific shocks for the 2016+ Tacomas, I will probably switch to them.
     
  11. Mar 14, 2016 at 6:28 PM
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    The Magnuson Moss-Warranty Act
    The Magnuson-Moss warranty act is a federal law enacted in 1975 that makes it illegal for auto manufacturers (or any manufacturer of consumer products, for that matter) to void a warranty simply because the owner of the vehicle adds an after-market product to a vehicle. The law states that manufacturers have to repair a vehicle problem UNLESS they can prove the problem was caused by an after-market part.
     
  12. Mar 14, 2016 at 7:41 PM
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    If you know any of the good Toyota techs on this forum they will tell you straight up that service writers rarely know anything factual about the cars and trucks they write up. Their job is to up sell additional work where ever they can.

    But it sounds like you are happy and you got what you wanted and know that parts wear out. I just hope that Billie doesn't fail on you at the wrong time. With the amount of pressure that spring is putting on a 5100 designed for a 590lb spring(2nd gen) we are bound to start seeing some failures soon. For that I just need this. :popcorn:
     
  13. Mar 14, 2016 at 7:46 PM
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    Yeah but only if the shock is listed for that model number. If they fail on you Bilstein will not warranty anything because they were installed on a 2016 with the OEM springs that they are not designed for. Just be prepared.
     
  14. Mar 14, 2016 at 7:49 PM
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    Are the brake lines the same from second gen? Extended brake lines will work or are they different?
     
  15. Mar 14, 2016 at 8:03 PM
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    Most likely 5100 will out last his warranty unless he beats on them really hard. 2nd gen coils are 540lb, OMEs are 590lb. Stiffer sring will not hurt shock on compression but it might wear out faster because it's not designer to handle rebound from 720lb coil, more of a comfort issue. If it's fails it's not like he's going to get stuck somewhere.
     
  16. Mar 14, 2016 at 8:06 PM
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    Possibly... but the bigger issue are those using the adjustable bottom clip and adding in lift on those OEM springs. You are compressing that stiffer spring even more. I see that clip failing and the bottom cup falling down.
     
  17. Mar 14, 2016 at 8:19 PM
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    Hey yal this is my first post here on this forum! This is also my first yota! I just bought a 2016 Tacoma black double cab 2wd sr5 "XP Rockstar package" all stock except window tint lol 20160307_180331.jpg2016-03-04 15.41.16.jpg

    I'm loving this truck but I'm used to big trucks and big tires. With the 3" pro comp lift and 285/70r17s, how is your ride comfort and do you have much power/mpg loss?
     
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  18. Mar 14, 2016 at 8:20 PM
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    The bottom cup if fine, it holds same truck weight as 2nd gen. I read somewhere or seen on YouTube that it will hold up to 5000lb. I would worry about top nut when preloading new 720lb coil, applying that much preload. Imagine someone preload them at 2.5" and then cross tread top nut without knowing, that think can kill someone if they try removing whole strut assembly.
     
  19. Mar 14, 2016 at 8:27 PM
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    If you find that stat on the clip holding up to 5000lbs. I would like to see it. The way that clip just barly sits in the shock body groove I don't see how it holds 5k. But I am always willing to absorb new, fact based information. You also have a good point on that top nut. I did not think about that part.
     
  20. Mar 14, 2016 at 11:04 PM
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    I couldn't find that info, only think I found was video guy saying that stock coil will fail before bottom cup will, tho that was with 2nd gen coil. But I'm pretty sure I've seen that somewhere. Just as of exemple that it will hold lots of weight. Truck curb weight is 4200lb about 60% of that weight is in front so each strut cup is holding about 1200lb as its standing add two people in front and it would be 1400lb it's safe to say that when you drive you on the road on some bumps or when you brake it gets to 2000lb per front strut. When you completely bottom out your shock it's probably 4k just assumption. So it's very possible that it will hold 5k before it gives out. The question is.... if you set your billies at 2.5" or 1.75" with 720lb coil can you completely bottom out your suspention hitting bump stops without exceeding 5k limit?
     

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