Wheel and tire weights

I'm looking at picking up a set of lightly used wheels and tires from Craigslist. The wheels are the 4Runner TRD Pros and the tires are BFG KO2 265/70/17 E-rated.

I currently have a stock 2017 TRD OR with stock wheels and tires. How much heavier is the upsized wheel and tire combo? I'm not particularly concerned with MPG's, but how negatively will this impact acceleration and ride quality? I'm sure it will reduce it some, but really how noticeable is it? Should I hold out for C-rated tires? How noticeable is the difference between C and E ratings?

If anyone with this combo could chime in, I'd greatly appreciate it.

Thanks

 

That sucks because that's literally one of the only C load sizes the ko2 comes in....yet they chose E. Unless it's a really great deal, I'd hold out or jist order the stuff you really want.

 

I went from Stock (TRD OR 4x4 MT6) wheel/tires to KO2 C 265/70/17, 17x9-12mm wheels and can't tell the difference in weight. After playing with air pressures to find the ride I like best I can't complain. My son has the same truck as me but put KO2 E 275/70/17 and I can feel the weight difference a little but acceleration is still good.

 

They're asking $1800 for the setup (only 3k miles on them). I'm thinking of offering $1200 To $1500. Thoughts?

 

I have 265/75r16 e-load tires with stock OR Suspension, and the ride quality feels just slightly stiffer (nothing uncomfortable).
The acceleration from stop has been affected a little bit as well, but after installing the CAI and aftermarket Exhaust, the overall throttle response has actually improved.

It also depends on if you really need the e-load, I got mine since I go to the mountains often, and at least half of the trails have a lot of sharp rocks.

 

bigger heavier tires look cool but that "little bit" of weight you feel will get heavier over time, in my experience, and it will eat at you if you daily drive your vehicle.... the fuel economy, transmission shifting and lack of low end torque are just not things that I want to sacrifice daily to "look cool" ... been there done that

 

Got the "C" rated on mine and they have been great. 1800.00 sounds high to me. 800.00 for brand new tires at DT, and I got the wheels brand new from ebay for just under 800.00 shipped from Lexus of Miami.

G.

 

$1800?? Shop around, you can make the combo yourself with new everything for $12-1400... with the tires you actually want. OEM wheels go for $800 on ebay, search around bit and you can find them cheaper. knock-offs are cheaper. Then just grab some tires. No dealing with someone's second hand stuff.

 

I doubt you will notice a real change in power since you're barely going up in size compared to stock. With E load tires it will be noticeably stiffer though.

 

I'm on stock suspension and 17x8.5 wheels with the 265/70r17 C load KO2's and I noticed a change in acceleration, but the truck wasn't exactly speedy to begin with. The performance off road is worth any depreciation in mpg/quickness, IMO.

 

Unsprung weight (like wheels and tires) is always the enemy of everything.

Choices for things like E tires sometimes have to be make for usage of the vehicle.

Choices of heavy wheels sometimes have to be made for strength reasons, depending on usage.

Every choice is a compromise of something else.............

Staying as light as reasonable (light can cost more too) while having equipment that meets your functional need is always a good goal.

 

Agreed $1800 is way over priced for a used set with 3k miles. I paid less than that for mine brand new. Wheels are $7-800 on ebay. Tires are around $1000 installed. More or less depending how hard you shop it and what you are willing to risk with tire mounters and balance issues.

 

Yeah, I have a connection to get the wheels for about $725... and figured the tires would be about $1000 from DT. I certainly wasn't going to pay $1800 for a used set. But before I made a low ball offer to the guy selling his used set, I was trying to figure out if it's something I even wanted... E vs C rated. I think, based on everyone's advice above, I'll just go the new route with C rated tires. I do plenty of off roading here in the PNW, but I don't think it's extreme enough to warrant the E rating.

Oh, and thank you all for the responses and advice, it's greatly appreciated.

 

there is another side to the consideration for some of us. i have E tires for the stiff sidewalls as that's my preference for driving and handling. i can't stand the bubblegum feel of soft sidewall tires. after getting the truck i put on Toyo AT2's 265/70-17 (C) and the truck drove like a sloppy bouncy mess. many don't mind this but i cannot deal with it. i sold those with 200 miles on them and bought Cooper STMaxx (E) in 265/65-17 to further increase sidewall stiffness both by going to E's and by reducing the aspect ratio and reducing sidewall height. the wheels are very stiff now, but i run them at low pressure (30 front 28 rear wheel warm) and I'm on a soft Fox suspension, so it comes out right in the end for me. but I'm also very particular about my vehicle setups, so this isn't for everyone and there's more to it beyond wheels/tires. but i couldn't be happier with it now. also being on pretty lightweight wheels (Konig Six Shooters) keeps the weight from being any kind of issue.

 

Thanks everyone on this thread for your input! I decided to go the route of new wheels and tires. Getting the 4Runner TRD Pro wheels, but in gray, as I think that will look killer with my MGM TRD OR. I'm also planning on going the BFG KO2 265/70/17 C-rated route, as I just don't punish my tires enough to need the E's.

Once again, thanks for the help. This forum has been an amazing tool, in my entire 2 months of ownership.

FYI, I'll have TRD OR takeoffs available for sale soon. Only 2500 on the odometer at the moment if anyone is interested. Located in Washington, would ship, but you probably wouldn't want to pay that shipping cost.

 

You're right on the money.

270/70R17 K02's alone are 53+ lbs. Currently have these tires and size on the 4runner.

I think people are delusional about how their truck "feels" after putting on bigger, heavier wheels and tires. I've had several 2nd Gens and a 5th Gen 4runner with the 4.0L and immediately felt the effects of going up in tire size (265/270/285) with sluggishness and mpg.

I especially like this one commenting about how his 35" tires feel with the 3.5L.

 

Those of us who have actually done it, are objective and know better. There are others who are emotionally invested in their purchases/upgrades and are kidding themselves....snowed in by their investment. You see it all day every day here.

 

My advise to all, if you must put on bigger tires opt for lighter wheels to compensate for weight. Also not just about weight, taller tires will have an effect on acceleration, handling, braking, etc...

Biggest PITA is triggering the ABS/VSC.

 

Thanks again for all your help. Here's the end result. I know it's not original, but I like it.

 

Looks sweet! So how's the power and fuel economy?