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Wheel size for 2.5-3inch lift 3Gen DCLB

Discussion in 'Off-Roading & Trails' started by Fatty108, Feb 21, 2021.

  1. Feb 21, 2021 at 12:50 AM
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    Hi. I'm new to the truck world and just bought a 2018 tacoma Off road DCLB and want to get it setup for doing some offroading but also keep it as a daily commuter. So looking into tires and suspension.

    I was recommended to get a Bilstein 6112 front (2.5inch) and the 5160 rear? Was told it was its a good balance between daily commuter and being able to offroad (nothing crazy) as well as not having to make big changes with control arms etc with a higher lift.

    For tires was looking into the BFG KO2 and debating between the 285/70/17 or the 275/70/17. Would prefer to go with the bigger wheel since it's give me a higher clearance (especially since I have DCLB). I looked at a lot of youtube videos and forums and many people have had issues with rubbing. So my question is if I go with the above suspension setup (Bilstein 6112/5160) would I have an issue of rubbing with the larger 285/70/17 tire size?

    I'm open to any other recs for other suspension and wheel.

    I will be packing some weight on my truck bed with a GFC camper (about 250lbs) and accessories
     
  2. Feb 21, 2021 at 1:09 AM
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    255 85 R16 is the answer you seek.

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    Dug up an old picture so you can see them with a GFC.

    If for some reason you have to have 17’s (that shouldn’t be what’s on your truck right now if it’s an OR) you want 255 80 R17’s. Perhaps you know this but your wheel size doesn’t give you more clearance. Your tire diameter does. So 16-17’s is only a matter of sidewall which is why the OR comes with 16’s more sidewall=better on a truck. Different for a performance vehicle.
     
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    Hi YOTA 4x4! Thanks for the rec! Was curios also what kind of suspension do you have? And with your 33 inch wheels do you have an rubbing?
     
  4. Feb 22, 2021 at 12:34 AM
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    Hey man, I’ve got an OME lift.

    +660 leaf springs (I have bags too)
    886X coils in the front.

    those are the heaviest ones they make and they worked well with my go fast. I added the Air Bags after I sold my GFC and installed the new camper since it was quite a bit heavier.

    I would say the front coils I have are a little stiff without a front bumper and or winch.

    Marie @HeadStrong Off-Road is a great resource to order from.
     
  5. Feb 22, 2021 at 12:40 AM
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    How much of a lift did it prove front and rear? Did you go with the regular ones without a reservoir or the BP51? I've read around that with a 2inch lift a 33" tires people still had issues with rubbing on the wheel wells when turning. Most my weight would be in the back with the GFC and other accessories
     
  6. Feb 22, 2021 at 12:42 AM
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    Debating whether to go with the 2inch or 3 inch OME kit. I've heard though nce you start lifting it 3inches or higher there are a lot more things you need to upgrade like UCAs and diff drops
     
  7. Feb 22, 2021 at 1:05 AM
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    https://www.headstrongoffroad.com/s...af_Pack_-_2016__Tacoma_(OME16TACO-DAKAR).html


    So that’s the lift I am running. As I mentioned I went with the heaviest setup I could find. I did NOT order UCA’s and the truck ended up being kinda “squirrelly” at speed. I ended up with JBA high caster UCA’s and they are awesome. Not sure if I would go with the BP-51’s or not. I mean they are awesome but I don’t live anywhere I can really take advantage of them at high speed off road. Idk what my lift is since I have supplemented bags but it was way more than 2” but maybe not quite 3”. I have 1000% no rubbing at any speed but that’s more likely do to my wheel and tire combo. Wide tires rub much more than my “pizza cutters”.
     
  8. Feb 22, 2021 at 8:25 AM
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    Have you done any off-roading with it yet?

    I suggest going out with it 100% stock. You'll be amazed how capable these things are with zero modifications. I'm definitely a fan of the 255/85r16 pizza cutters, but if you don't have much or any off-road driving experience, they aren't going to do you any good.

    Then, as you gain more driving experience, you'll find out what mods make the most sense for you.

    If anything perhaps some decent all terrain tires, but you don't need 33's or anything. At least not yet.
     
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    I wasn’t initially going to fully off-road just road trips here and there and camping but then I’d gotten a taste for off-roading when I went to Utah near Zion and Bryce. It was nothing crazy just some dirt and some snow covered roads and I really enjoyed it and started looking more into it.

    waiting for my sliders but then will prob try some more. I wanted to try boulders and rocky trails but I’m pretty sure I wouldnt have the clearance for that with the stock components.

    im based in Cali near LA. Know if any beginner level trails?
     
  10. Feb 22, 2021 at 10:36 AM
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    You would be amazed at the clearance it has stock, and the type of trails you can get through. They're plenty capable to get you into trouble.

    As for trails in So Cal, there are tons. I'm from the Sacramento area, so I'm not super familiar with that area, but there are several members that live down there. Might try the regional forums.

    There's also a website called https://www.offroadinghome.com/ that has digital versions (kmz's mostly) of all the trails from the Backcountry Adventure series books. These books are geared towards stock-ish 4x4's and SUVs, though they have plenty of harder trails, too.

    Highly recommend it. I have the Nor Cal version, and I've downloaded all the KMZs, too.

    I know, it's boring to sit here and recommend you just drive the truck you have. Everyone wants to throw money at their trucks with cools tires and suspension, and a bunch of other sweet mods, but they are wholly unnecessary for a novice. Even sliders, skid plates and big steel bumpers and stuff are IMO a waste. Lift kits and sliders don't make you a better driver.

    I would also steer clear of the "overlander" modifications, especially the pricier options like the the GFC campers or roof top tents, etc... Start small and simple (and cheap!). There are SO MANY instagram and youtube channels out there that give you the misconception that you "need" all this stuff to go "overlanding". You don't. We've been "overlanding" for generations with a just a 4x4 pickup and a tent and some sleeping bags. Especially when this is your daily driver as well, all that stuff just ruins your gas mileage and the everyday usability of your pickup truck.
     
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    lol, solid advice but in his first post he states he bought a GFC....
     
  12. Feb 22, 2021 at 10:46 PM
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    Thanks for all the advice man! Super appreciate it. I’m on the waitlist for the gfc. Don’t have it as of yet. So I’ll def try these trails out!
     
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    My 2012 long bed is lifted with Fox shocks and I have Falken Wildpeak 285/70/17's on some nice SCS SR8's rims.

    Ride is smooth as butter on hot breakfast toast.
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    No issues with rubbing? Also which fox shocks? And how much lift does it give you? Did you have to get UCAs? Doff drop or other additional parts?
     
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    yes you will need a cab mount chop and hammer down your pinch weld.

    Fox 2.5 Factory Coilovers for the front
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    I was a big time BFG All Terrain guy before I made the switch to Wildpeaks. Love them. :burnrubber:

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    I like the sidewall and ride quality of a 16" if going no more than a 33" tire.
     
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    If you don't mind me asking, what tires are those? I am putting a 2.5" front / 1.5" rear lift on my '21 OR DCSB this weekend, and was looking at new tires (not now, but when the stock tires come to an end). I really like those you have. I like the stock Goodyear Wrangler Kevlar ones, but think I may need larger tires, solely for aesthetics/preference. I am not a fan of wide tires, shortly I will have to commute to work (50 miles one way), so I like to narrower ones for that too, but also looking for a non aggressive tire for commuting, with some forest service roads
     
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    They are Cooper Discoverer ST Maxx tires. Very very good tires, they’re heavy though E-rated, but I run a 1000lb camper.
     
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