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Wheel spacer/ smaller offset engineering

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by mutilatedjak, Nov 24, 2020.

  1. Nov 24, 2020 at 4:49 PM
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    mutilatedjak

    mutilatedjak [OP] n00b waffle

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    Wheel spacers/smaller offset wheels
    I always hear people say spacers or less offset will wear bearings faster. Some claim they have gone thousands of miles with no issues...others have bearing failures within a few thousand miles.

    I have yet to see real numbers run...so I took a stab at with a napkin calc.
    From what I see...even a half inch spacer will load your outer bearing with 50% more load. If your wheel centerline lines up with the outer bearing, it will see all the load.

    Questions:
    1. Does anyone know the bearing load rating in these assemblies?
    2. Anyone know the exact spacing between the bearings?

    Assumptions:
    Bearing spacing, if someone has better numbers I'll update.
    Truck weight to make numbers cleaner.
    Only vertical static load, no dynamic or turning loads.

    CONCLUSION: even a small spacer will significantly change bearing load, bearing wear, but until we know the bearing spec, we can't quantify the loss of bearing life.

    wheel 2.jpg

    wheel 3 (1).jpg
     
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  3. Nov 25, 2020 at 6:30 AM
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    3 tacomas with over 750k total miles all lifted, all ran a 285 on a min -10 offset wheel never replaced a single wheel bearing front or rear.
     
  4. Nov 25, 2020 at 6:39 AM
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    Ahhhhaha didn't take long for the anecdotal retort to the cold hard math.
     
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    Remember. L10 definition.

    Paraphrased.... 10% of the bearings will have spalls, pits......on a bearing component; race, balls

    This means the bearing will continue to run, although it will begin generating noise. The bearing is considered on a path to a catastrophic failure.

    So, L10 is a very conservative life calculation.
     
  6. Nov 25, 2020 at 6:43 AM
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    he isnt disputing the math. Just sharing experience which in the end is one of the greatest teachers
     
  7. Nov 25, 2020 at 6:44 AM
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    You're right, I misread his post. It wasn't so much a retort as much as just sharing his experience. My bad.
     
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    Yea exactly!
     
  9. Nov 25, 2020 at 11:49 AM
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    Nice work! I’m curious how tire & offset combinations would factor into your calculations.

    i.e., 65lb-285mm-factory offset vs 45lb-235mm-1”spacer

    Which would wear out bearings faster?
     
  10. Nov 25, 2020 at 1:05 PM
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    Good question. I would bet the spacer would wear the bearings out faster than a heavier tire. Since this calc is independent of tire weight, it's hard to factor that in.
     

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