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wheel spacers illegal!?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by rrtaco, Jun 5, 2009.

  1. Jun 6, 2009 at 12:16 PM
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    I've been using Spidertrax for over a year with no problems.Just had everything inspected when I did my 30k service & all is fine.I do believe there are spacers out there of poor quality that will cause issues in a shorter period of time & I intend to keep close inspection on my hubs & everything at regular intervals.I researched alot & Spidertrax seem by far the best adapter for my Tacoma.Quality & fit & properly maintained,I think they will not be an issue,unless you ignore & never check things.
     
  2. Jun 6, 2009 at 12:21 PM
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    Can you elaborate... Is there more maintenance than checking the torque?
     
  3. Jun 7, 2009 at 10:33 AM
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    are ur rims offset? if so how much
     
  4. Jun 7, 2009 at 7:07 PM
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    Just common sense stuff.When I rotate my tires I check the torque,look for damage,blow them off with high pressure air nozzle & wipe them down with a rag.Just a general inspection & cleaning.
     
  5. Jun 7, 2009 at 7:21 PM
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    21' TRD OffRoad 2" 887 OME on Bilstein 5100's. 285/70R17 General Grabbers G3 17x8.5" Icon TRD wheels (Gun metal gray) 4.75" BS
    The only reason bearings wear out is due to higher offset.

    Now if one set of rims offset is equal to another rim and spacer offset? Then the wear factor is exactly the same.

    Elementary Physics.:D

    Sure you might have vibration issue if you decided to go the cheap route and buy them off Ebay.

    But you get what you pay for!

    Spidertrax make great spacers. But they cost more.
     
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  6. Jun 7, 2009 at 9:45 PM
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    Finally, a man who gets it.
     
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  7. Jun 7, 2009 at 10:22 PM
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    I'm going to back Brunes up. Frankly its your decision and I doubt there is anything to change your mind. Stepping back from all the physics and dynamics and looking at it "Barney Style" is all I need.

    You are installing a device that causes your truck to work in a manner that it is not designed for. Add in the fact that the wheels/tires are the most important saftey device in my truck, I would NEVER let those things near my wheels.

    I know thats not going to change anyo\nes mind who is set on the almighty wheels spacers, but I'll just be laughing to myself 5-10 years down the road when yours catestropically fails causing you tons of money in repairs.
     
  8. Jun 7, 2009 at 10:44 PM
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    21' TRD OffRoad 2" 887 OME on Bilstein 5100's. 285/70R17 General Grabbers G3 17x8.5" Icon TRD wheels (Gun metal gray) 4.75" BS
    Well if you install 1" wheel spacers, on rims which has 5.5" BS. What you essentially end up with is a rim that now has a 4.5" BS.

    Which is well in the range of average aftermarket wheels.

    There is NO difference if you bought a set of wheels with a 4.5" BS.

    Now to think that the spacer may cause "catestropic" failure???:confused:

    That maybe so? But it would likely be caused by cheap poor quality materials.

    Like I stated before. You get what you pay for!

    Now without going into metal quality, and technical jargin. I'll just say that just because both spacers are made of Aluminum doesn't mean they have the same strength.

    In fact the grade of Aluminum that Spidertrax make their spacers out of is higher than some cast aluminum rims out there.

    So essentially the spacer is stronger than the rim itself.

    Now, If you want to run around and yell "the sky is falling"? (Wheel spacers are bad)

    That's up to you?

    But don't get offended if we don't believe you!


    I do agree with you! Some wheel spacers are Very Bad! Cheaply made sub-standard materials can lead to failure.

    But we test and examine fasteners. And you wouldn't believe the amount of counterfeit Grade bolts there are out there.

    Fastener failure causes injury and death almost daily.

    But I would never give a blanket statement saying Grade 8 bolts are all bad.

    It's just not a true statement!
     
  9. Jun 7, 2009 at 10:49 PM
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    Which is the exact reason I bought after market rims identical to factory specs. Just one less thing to run that messes with how the truck is designed to work. I don't feel the need to compromise that for a more aggressive stance. If I needed to clear a UCA from rubbing issues I would do it right and go with a high quality aftermarket UCA.

    I get exactly what you are saying, and it makes perfect sense! Its just that I would do neither. Maybe I am a little paranoid but I am keeping my truck for the life of it so anything that could cause premature wear I am avoiding
     
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    21' TRD OffRoad 2" 887 OME on Bilstein 5100's. 285/70R17 General Grabbers G3 17x8.5" Icon TRD wheels (Gun metal gray) 4.75" BS
    That's cool!
    I'm also keeping my truck for a very long time. That's why I took the time to learn everything about this new design. And I took the time to build my truck right.

    I fully expect wheel bearings to wear out, brake pads to go, rotors to have to be replaced,etc...

    But I built my truck the way I want it to be. I'm fully aware of the issues that I have opened myself up to.

    For me it's the price I'm willing to pay if I want to play.

    But if you keep your truck stock don't think you won't have the same issues. It will just be a little while longer for it to happen to you.

    So "premature wear" is a relative term?

    I have already seem stock Tacoma's have to replace their wheel bearings.

    I've seen differential that needed to be replaced, motor mounts cracking off the frames. (These were all on stock trucks)

    So keeping your truck stock doesn't guarantee a trouble free ownership.

    It just guarantees a boring ownership.

    You got a Toyota! Drive it like you stole it!:headbang::yay:
     
  11. Jun 8, 2009 at 1:55 AM
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    Hey toku do you think the Spidertrax will pass hawaii Safety Checks?
     
  12. Jun 8, 2009 at 7:02 AM
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    Stock is boring & you will have some sort of problem eventually that is going to be a costly repair.When reading through forums & posts from people having issues;just as many are from stockers as modded,maybe more.If you want to stay stock or maintain factory specs,it's cool,you will blend in nicely with the thousands of others on the road.I personally like modding my vehicles,it's my hobby & I research & try to stick with high quality products.I have yet to hear about a problem with Spidertrax,they are very high quality & I agree you get what you pay for.Everything mechanical wears out eventually,but proper care,inspections,& maintenance will ensure maximum life from parts.
     
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    Well DUH! Majority of vehicles on the road are stock, therfore it takes zero brain power to realize that moree issues will come from stock vehicles.

    Never once did I say my vehicle was staying stock. I love modding as much as you, but I clearly said I get quality parts that are closest to stock specs as possible
     
  14. Jun 8, 2009 at 3:12 PM
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    I guess that this is going to get me lots of trouble down the road :D:D:D
    1.25" Spidertraxx, Pro Comp Mojave 16x10 4BS Boggers 33x12.50/16


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  15. Jun 8, 2009 at 3:23 PM
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    Damn kid,chill!No need to be a dick.I clearly was talking about what I read on forums,not all vehicles on the road.Grow up.
     
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    I'm not sure if it will pass Recon??

    I run the spacers so my truck has a better stance. For Recon/safety check, I remove them so my tires don't stick out of my fenders.
    But for most of the year I run the spidertrax 1.25" spacers.
     
  17. Jun 8, 2009 at 3:59 PM
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    I wasn't being a dick, I was just pointing out obvious flaws in the argument. I just hate when people jump on and tell a user that is unfamiliar with what he is diving into that there is zero risk in the modification
     
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    Umm, yeah, you are. So many things "wrong" there (bias ply, boggers, spacers and low offset 10" wheels, etc). But I still dig it!
     
  19. Jun 8, 2009 at 4:21 PM
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    Where did you got the 2.25", I would love to swap mines for 2.25" everywhere I look, I only see 1.25"
    :cool::cool:
     
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    Ooops! Sorry i meant 1.25":D
     

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