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Wheels and Tires

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by rodp, Oct 8, 2009.

  1. Oct 8, 2009 at 3:50 PM
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    rodp

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    Hi all,

    I am looking for a wheels and tire combination for my 09 tacoma dcab with a Toytec 3 inch lift and LR UCAs. I like the look of 20s with 33s. I am thinking about going with the KMC Rockstars with a 275/60/20 Nitto Terra Grappler tire. The wheels are 20x8.5 with a +10 offset giving 5.14 bs. I don't offroad much but I am wondering if I will need to do any trimming for a full turn of the wheel when daily driving or light offroad. I don't want to remove the mud flaps nor any rub. Any idea or suggestions from what has worked for you guys?

    Thanks!
     
  2. Oct 8, 2009 at 3:54 PM
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    krimson

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    Get the Terra Grapplers and if you are going with 33s you would need 285s not 275s. If you dont want to cut you would need wheel spacers (get the Spidertrax 1.25" spacers). you could keep your rear mudflaps but its better to take the front ones off because you are gonna rub them against your tires when you turn with 33s.
     
  3. Oct 8, 2009 at 4:07 PM
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    rodp

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    Can I just get a wheel with less back spacing rather than using wheel spacers? I don't want the wheel to stick out to far over the wheel well. Given the tacoma offset is +30 on a stock 17x7.5 I thought +10 offset on a 20x8.5 wheel would allow for the larger tire. Do I have to go with around 4.5 bs? how much would they stick out over the side?
     
  4. Oct 8, 2009 at 4:15 PM
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    You could get a wheel with a bigger back spacing, but a lot of dudes on this site buy wheel spacers to avoid any type of rubbing. It all depends on the tire and wheels you get. It might stick out up to 3 inches. Its your truck but i think 17s would look a lot better on a 4x4 instead of 20s. You want some meat on your tires and not have all rim, but its your truck man not mine.
     
  5. Oct 8, 2009 at 4:58 PM
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    Oh btw if you are running aftermarket wheels you would need to buy and Install hub-centric rings to avoid vibration.
     
  6. Oct 9, 2009 at 3:17 PM
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    That is totally not true! Almost all aftermarket wheels are lug centric (except the ones made specifically for a 106mm diameter hub which are mostly made specifically for a Toyota)... all you need to do is center the wheel by the lugs and get the tires road force balanced. Spherical tipped lug nuts (called acorn or spherical bulge) center the aftermarket wheels up to the lug studs and stop the vibrations when installed properly. I've had aftermarket wheels on sports cars, family cars and this truck and NEVER had vibration problems and I've only ran a hub-centric ring to clear my calipers on this truck.

    There are tons of forum members running aftermarket wheels and no hub-centric spacers without vibration problems.

    Just adding clarity to a sometimes confusing issue... PEACE! :cool:
     
  7. Nov 14, 2009 at 11:27 PM
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    rodp

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    Krimson, you are correct. I need hub centric rings to get rid of the vibration from my new wheels. I did get the 20x8.5 XD Rockstars. The tires were balanced using the cone to center the hub so it has to be the fact that the wheel is not centered on the hub bore. Its hard to believe but I also need longer wheel studs to mount these wheels as there is not enough stud for the lug to thread onto.
     
  8. Nov 14, 2009 at 11:29 PM
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    There is a difference between hub centric wheels spacers and hub centric wheel rings. The ring goes into the hub bore and is meant to center the wheel not to space or move the wheel out.
     
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