1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

When are snow chains really necessary with a 4x4?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas' started by Crom, Feb 13, 2012.

  1. Feb 13, 2012 at 9:29 PM
    #21
    vbibi

    vbibi Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2009
    Member:
    #20060
    Messages:
    469
    Gender:
    Male
    san fransisco bay area
    Vehicle:
    2009 4door long bed
    In California you won't pass past the check point if you do not have them.
    Twice I was instructed to install them on my 4x4.
     
  2. Feb 13, 2012 at 9:38 PM
    #22
    Workman

    Workman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2010
    Member:
    #32863
    Messages:
    260
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    06 access cab, off road, V6
    Wow really? In Idaho that is not the case. Workman has never heard of using chains on a 4x4 while on pavement, and he grew up where it is very cold and icy. Workman has been in 4x4's mudding with chains on and it seemed to help to not get stuck.....and throw mud all over the place;)
     
  3. Feb 13, 2012 at 10:15 PM
    #23
    MountainEarth

    MountainEarth Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2010
    Member:
    #30519
    Messages:
    2,495
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Bryan
    CO
    Vehicle:
    2010 TRD OR Access
    Leer 100XR Shell, BedRug mat - comfy sleeping, GT Covers microfiber seat covers, BFG All Terrains 265/70r16, Dashmat, Antennax 13" shorty antenna, Weathertech liners, Ultra Gauge, Avid Light Bar, PIAA 520 ATPs, one old dog
    Does Workman always talk about himself in the 3rd person? :rolleyes:

    A lot depends on snow type. In the Sierra Nevada where the snow is very wet, and super slick when packed, it's not uncommon for CHP to request that even 4x4s install chains in the rear. But in the Rockies and interior ranges where snow is very dry, and grippy when packed, you almost never see chain requirements for 4x4s. In fact you almost never see them for 2wd vehicles either. Mostly semis. That being said, I still carry a set in winter. It's cheap insurance. I have a set of Thule XB16s in the bed under the shell.
     
  4. Feb 13, 2012 at 10:27 PM
    #24
    the.sight.picture

    the.sight.picture .45%er

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2012
    Member:
    #71180
    Messages:
    3,130
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Nick
    VA
    Vehicle:
    05 TRD
    flux capisitor, magnaflow muffler bearing, extra blinker fluid container. 6 inch wide stacks
    THIS^^^^
     
  5. Feb 14, 2012 at 10:40 AM
    #25
    Crom

    Crom [OP] Time is precious; use it wisely

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2009
    Member:
    #18782
    Messages:
    4,082
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mr. Sir
    San Diego, CA
    Vehicle:
    2009 Double Cab 4x4 Off Road
    A.R.E. MX Shell & Yakima Rack, Stubbs HD-SKO Rock Sliders, JBA UCA's & OME 885 Coils and nitrochargers, Flat BajaRack, Kenwood VHF/UHF Radio, Aux Battery, Solar Panels, L-Track everywhere, Goodyear Duratracs, Four-Leaf pack, Secured tailgate, 7-pin relocation, Inverter 400W all time, In-cab 110v outlets, Rear-seat 12v outlets., Steering shaft TSB, anytime fogs, DTRL toggle switch, aux turn signals, Diff Breather, ImMrYo mirror bracket, ABS Kill switch, (2) Kid Car Seats, and a Glock 23 with night sights.
    That is how I intended to use them. Thanks.

    Great post. Thanks. The one time I got stuck in my truck I was high centered due to snow and it sucks.

    Yup. That happened to me once minus the chains.

    Thanks.
     
  6. Feb 16, 2012 at 6:13 PM
    #26
    bethes

    bethes Señorita Member

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2011
    Member:
    #68547
    Messages:
    1,303
    Gender:
    Female
    First Name:
    Beth
    Tulsa/Sand Springs, OK
    Vehicle:
    2011 V6 TRD Off Road
    I found it! One my way to my work location today. This is when you should use chains :D

    ImageUploadedByTapatalk1329444735.277873.jpg
     
  7. Feb 29, 2012 at 7:19 AM
    #27
    CantSitStill

    CantSitStill Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2012
    Member:
    #73601
    Messages:
    1,037
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    FTR
    CNY
    I used to drive maxi passenger vans to Denver Internation Airport from Vail, CO and back. We would routinely use chains up and over the pass, or in the villages to get people to and from their final destinations. The vans were long wheelbase, rear wheel drive and held maybe 9-11 people and skis and luggage. 4 siped snow tires and that much weight generally got us anywhere, but when you are down to your last couple people those tires would just spin.
    Chain it up.

    Oh, and to some of the other posters... HAH!! LMFAO. I have four wheel stop! And, Cantsitstill always chuckles when people like Workman talk about themselves in the third person. Cantsitstill is smiling now.
     
  8. Feb 29, 2012 at 7:29 AM
    #28
    JLee

    JLee The Man! Vendor

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2010
    Member:
    #40461
    Messages:
    15,154
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jerry
    Bay Area NorCal
    Vehicle:
    02 Extra cab SAS Linked front and rear
    I lost track thousands of dollars ago.
    That guy was a dick or you were in some really bad conditions. I have never been checked nor had to chain up my 4x4.

    My dad was a chain installer for 20+ years and I use to be up there every weekend they don't make 4x4's chain up unless its really bad and they just close it down most of the time when it gets like that. You doo however need to have chains in your 4x4 we have had to sell some to people so they could pass but they did make them put them on.

    Also what were you driving and what kind of tires did you have they will make you chain up a 4x4 if they are not M+S rated tires.
     
  9. Feb 29, 2012 at 10:09 AM
    #29
    skytower

    skytower Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2010
    Member:
    #38505
    Messages:
    3,221
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Dave
    virginia
    Vehicle:
    08 Tacoma 4x4
    Hitch and wiring, aux back-up light, rear strobe lights, radio and underseat sub.
    Heavy snow combined with steep hills and you will want to have chains. Mountain areas are where you would want them, primarily. Ice covered roads are another.
    Conditions have to get pretty extreme to need chains on the road. They usually close the roads when the plows can't get it done.
    Off-road? On mud, ice, and deep snow, they will make quick work of it.
     
  10. Feb 29, 2012 at 10:52 AM
    #30
    JstreetS

    JstreetS Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2010
    Member:
    #42766
    Messages:
    273
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jay
    DFW, TX
    Vehicle:
    09 TRD Sport DCLB
    -6" Procomp -18" Method Race Rims -285/70R18 (34.1x11.5) Toyo MTs -TRD CAT Exhaust -Trifecta Tonneau
    I have some for sale if anyone is interested. I moved from WA to TX...no need for them. PM if you are interested and I will get you the details. I paid $119 from AutoAnything.
     
  11. Mar 1, 2012 at 3:27 AM
    #31
    CantSitStill

    CantSitStill Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2012
    Member:
    #73601
    Messages:
    1,037
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    FTR
    CNY
    Damn, I only got the TRD Sport. The Offroad will actually tell you when to put chains on??? Is there a mod I can do to get mine to do that too? Please link. That would be soooo sweet
     
  12. Mar 1, 2012 at 6:55 AM
    #32
    AWorthyOpponent

    AWorthyOpponent Member Caught Off Road

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2011
    Member:
    #62164
    Messages:
    2,808
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Dan
    Palm Beach County, Florida
    Vehicle:
    2013 MGM DCLB TRD SPORT 4x4
    TRD Catback Exhaust
    Really????

    The off road does not tell you to chain up...he means you should chain up if you are off road and feel it is necessary, or you should chain up if the police tell you to...
     
  13. Mar 1, 2012 at 7:26 AM
    #33
    Utard

    Utard Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2011
    Member:
    #66532
    Messages:
    3,141
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mark
    Nyssa, Oregon
    Vehicle:
    2012 DC LB 4WD TRD SPORT NAVI
    ------------------------------------------------------------ Stabilus.EZDown.Tailgate http://www.ezdown.com/home.php ----------------------------------------------- Tekonsha.Primus.IQ.Trailer.brake http://www.tekonsha.com/content/default.aspx---------------------------------------------------------------- Leer 180 CC http://www.leer.com/Truck-Caps#------------------------------------------------ Firestone Air Rite Air Bags--------------------------------------Kargomaster Rack
    Really?!?!?!?
     
  14. Mar 1, 2012 at 4:56 PM
    #34
    CantSitStill

    CantSitStill Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2012
    Member:
    #73601
    Messages:
    1,037
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    FTR
    CNY
    Oh, I see! This is where it ACTUALLY MATTERS if you have the CORRECT USAGE of the possessive word "your" or the contraction "you're"
    I read this that he only put on chains if his Tacoma with the Offroad package, or the police told him to. Thought maybe there was an option like in early '80s Chryslers. "A door is ajar. A door is ajar. " "Please put your chains on"
    Sorry, I haven't had a Tacoma since 2000.
     
  15. Mar 16, 2012 at 10:38 AM
    #35
    58 Siesta

    58 Siesta fox in the hen house

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2012
    Member:
    #74319
    Messages:
    713
    Gender:
    Male
    Northwest Montana
    Vehicle:
    2012 AC Manual 4.0 4x4 Base Model
    Access cab toolbox/ dog bed with seats and headrests deleted, waterproof TRD seat covers, yellow wire mod, diff breather relocated to tail light, engine block heater, Leer topper with Yakima tracks and rack, Yakima rack on cab, Ride Rite with Daystar cradles, 5100s set at 1.75 on stock springs, OME N182s on rear, CBI hidden front hitch, wired for winch front and rear Warn quick connect, Warn x8000i on external carrier, sway bar delete, trailer plug relocated to bumper, Pelfreybilt IFS and Mid skids
    I use chains frequently, often on all 4 wheels. I travel in deep snow through areas where tow trucks won't go, even if a cell phone would work to contact them. I have not taken my new (or any) Taco to these areas yet. My Nissan was an ideal machine for this kind of travel (RIP lil'truck)

    Obviously, I didn't do enough homework before purchasing a new truck. I thought these were supposed to be made for offroad travel, but I guess winter wasn't taken into consideration when designing the Tacoma. The inability to run chains on the front wheels is the only complaint I have with my Taco so far, and solving it would make me a happy person. Had I been informed, this would have been a deal breaker and I would have purchased a different vehicle (F150 was next on the list).

    I'm not willing to spend a bunch of money on mods to make a truck do what a truck is supposed to do "out of the box". I am already going to buy a second set of rims and tires for winter, so if this solves my dilemma I would greatly appreciate advice - not going to lift stock suspension.

    I'm not looking for general advice. Specifics would be greatly appreciated. Not trying to sound like an a - hole, just pretty miffed about this issue.
     
  16. Jul 25, 2012 at 2:18 PM
    #36
    Crom

    Crom [OP] Time is precious; use it wisely

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2009
    Member:
    #18782
    Messages:
    4,082
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mr. Sir
    San Diego, CA
    Vehicle:
    2009 Double Cab 4x4 Off Road
    A.R.E. MX Shell & Yakima Rack, Stubbs HD-SKO Rock Sliders, JBA UCA's & OME 885 Coils and nitrochargers, Flat BajaRack, Kenwood VHF/UHF Radio, Aux Battery, Solar Panels, L-Track everywhere, Goodyear Duratracs, Four-Leaf pack, Secured tailgate, 7-pin relocation, Inverter 400W all time, In-cab 110v outlets, Rear-seat 12v outlets., Steering shaft TSB, anytime fogs, DTRL toggle switch, aux turn signals, Diff Breather, ImMrYo mirror bracket, ABS Kill switch, (2) Kid Car Seats, and a Glock 23 with night sights.
    Sorry I missed your post and I know this thread is old. Is the reason you can't run chains on the front tires because the chains won't clear the upper control arm?
     
  17. Oct 12, 2012 at 2:51 AM
    #37
    JimBCa

    JimBCa Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2012
    Member:
    #85477
    Messages:
    522
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jim
    Bay Area California
    Vehicle:
    2012 TRD Off Road
    Build Duratrac 265/75R16 Load rated E BAMF Rock Sliders, Pelfreybilt Front bumper and skid plates (3) Pro Runner front and rear shocks,Add-A-Leaf springs ATO (Armor Tech Offroad) hilift mounts, Famous Fabrication cb antenna/flag mount CoverKing Tactical seat covers, Flyzeye dash-light ARE Shell, backup light mod SumoSprings and Stops
    It's that time of year for me also. Snow that is.

    I am new to my Tacoma OffRoad and when I made the purchase, they actually had me sign a document NOT to use chains on the truck. I didn't think to ask why at the time, due to so many things going through my head around the need to purchase a new truck.

    My previous GMC 4x4 had no issues with chains and had to use them several times as I travel across both hwy 88, 50 and 80 in the Sierra's and north through the mountains just north of Yreka. In most cases it was due to extreme weather or ice. I have a ski club I belong to which is located at the top of Donner Pass at Soda Springs, which has spots where you just don't want to go over the edge.

    Two years ago while driving through the north section of Yellowstone, going 20 mph we slid off the road because I didn't have chains on and we hit a bump. The back end broke loose and it was over the edge, which lucky for me was only a 15 ft drop at a 45 degree slope. Chained up and got out.

    So my question is: What do I do with my new Tacoma, I was looking at RUD Grip 4x4 chains as they seem easy enough to put on, but if I can't due to any one of a number of issues.

    Has anyone put chains on there new stock rig and if so recomendations.

    Thanks
     
  18. Oct 12, 2012 at 8:20 AM
    #38
    2004TacomaSR5

    2004TacomaSR5 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2011
    Member:
    #55722
    Messages:
    3,843
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jon
    Montana
    Vehicle:
    2004 Tacoma DCSB & '79 Toyota Pickup 4WD
    I only use them off road in really deep snow or going up super icy hills off road. If it is bad enough to have to use chains on the streets, you probably should stay home.
     
  19. Oct 15, 2012 at 9:23 AM
    #39
    Woodstocktaco

    Woodstocktaco Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2011
    Member:
    #56692
    Messages:
    111
    Gender:
    Male
    Woodstock, GA
    Vehicle:
    09 SR5 ORDC 4X4
    3" OME lift, 885 coils, Dakar rears, diff drop
    When I had my Taco I used chains on several occasions. A couple times when navigating gravel roads with fresh snowfall over ice - and once during a prolonged snow & ice event where I had to use them over a couple days on paved roads with snow & ice that had thawed & refrozen. On that occasion the chains were on the truck (rear wheels only) for 3 days & were driven frequently between 5mph & 30mph with no problems whatsoever.
    It seems ridiculous to sell a 4WD truck in an area where there's a reasonably good chance of the buyer encountering winter driving conditions and then make the driver agree to not use equipment that would improve the safety of driving in said winter conditions!
    In a perfect world, we could control the weather and decide whether or not to drive if it's not sunny - unfortunately, some of us have to go outside no matter what the weather and you need the right equipment, i.e. snow chains.
    I see absolutely no reason that a properly fitting set of chains will not work on a new Taco. If I lived where I had to drive in the Sierras in winter I wouldn't leave home without a set of chains and a repair kit or spare chain.
     
  20. Oct 15, 2012 at 10:38 AM
    #40
    Crom

    Crom [OP] Time is precious; use it wisely

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2009
    Member:
    #18782
    Messages:
    4,082
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mr. Sir
    San Diego, CA
    Vehicle:
    2009 Double Cab 4x4 Off Road
    A.R.E. MX Shell & Yakima Rack, Stubbs HD-SKO Rock Sliders, JBA UCA's & OME 885 Coils and nitrochargers, Flat BajaRack, Kenwood VHF/UHF Radio, Aux Battery, Solar Panels, L-Track everywhere, Goodyear Duratracs, Four-Leaf pack, Secured tailgate, 7-pin relocation, Inverter 400W all time, In-cab 110v outlets, Rear-seat 12v outlets., Steering shaft TSB, anytime fogs, DTRL toggle switch, aux turn signals, Diff Breather, ImMrYo mirror bracket, ABS Kill switch, (2) Kid Car Seats, and a Glock 23 with night sights.
    I did more research on the subject and there are two products that can be used on the front but they're very expensive. They essentially wrap around the tire and compress it. Can't remember what it's called at the moment.
     
To Top