When are we going to get HP numbers on the Gen 3...

I have never heard anyone say they were going to buy a Tacoma to haul ANYTHING. Ever. Nor have I heard anyone ever say, " WOW check out that towing capacity!" when shopping for a mid sized, v-6 truck.

Anyone around where I live that tows anything on a regular basis buys a 2500/F250 or bigger with a diesel engine, which is built for that purpose.

Load weights and such shouldn't matter when moving a washer and dryer..........or a jet ski / small ( I mean small) boats. If you're hauling heavy loads, wouldn't you want a wider/longer wheelbase for stability anyway?



In closing, and this is just a guess, but I would venture to state that *most* Tacoma owners purchased their truck for the reasons of 1) Proven reliability, 2) Cost of Ownership, and 3) you can toss some shit in the bed....

 

No. 3. . . . Definitely number 3

 

You sir, are about to meet BlueT. He believes everyone offroads and tows the shit out of +5000 lbs plus trailers with there Tacoma.

 

I had a Gen 1 . Nice truck..
The first time I saw A Gen 2 new on the lot. I just stood there looking at it. Like looking at a 63 vette of the truck world..Still nothing else out that looks like it.. The gen 3 looks like a POS..
I buy for looks & Reiability.
When this 2007 cost too much to fix. I will buy full size Just for the cab room and V8 . I give a shit about MPG . Was hoping for a small V8 in the new Taco. But all you kids would pass on that cuz your truck would not get 37 mpg..

 

I own a TRD Sport modified Tacoma for my personal truck and off road vehicle, my wife owns a 2015 V8 F150 we use for hauling our trailer and as the family truck, and for work I have a 2500 series Dodge. I buy for purpose. Believe it or not my F150 kills my Tacoma for MPG, but that has mostly to do with the mods. If I had to choose only one truck I'd go with the F150. I wouldn't be able to do many trails around here with that F150 though, so I'd lose that option which would hurt. I'd also be bagging the F150 suspension when I soil sample, which is what went out finally on my last work F150. All in all, since the company pays for me to have one of there trucks, I love having a truck for every duty.

Honestly 90% of Tacoma owners would love a full sized if they'd just get over the size stigma. That's why if you need to tow I believe there isn't any real reason not to move up to the full sized vehicles. Just avoid the Tundra. That truck is reliable but 13 mpg is about what my 2500 gets and is ridiculous mileage for a half ton.

The Tacoma will always win offroad where being light, nimble, and narrow wins over anything else. Adding a V8 will add weight and likely make the truck less nimble. Those aren't wins in my books.

The Dodge 2500 is a genuine POS. I wouldn't wish this truck upon my worst enemy. The fuel economy is okay for a gas job but it's failed me twice in the field to the point where I had to limp it home, once without 4WD, the speedo, or traciton control, and that's unacceptable for a 14 month old truck with 30K miles on it.

 

Better payload would be nice, some of us like pop-up campers in a small package. Even the lightest one out there you're over payload pretty quick when you load it up with provisions. I know guys will toss one on, but they are all over loaded.

3/4 Ton Truck gets pretty big on the trails, not to mention pretty sucky gas mileage...with a high buy in cost, sure you can the gasser version...but those only get 10 mpg if you're lucky.

I am broken record here, but it is a damn shame the rest of the world gets a burly little truck with a 2000# payload, that gets high 20's mpg, and we don't.

To get that 2000# payload, so I can have some wiggle room with weight, means I have to buy a Tundra...which gets lack luster fuel consumption.

 

I agree with the pop up trailer problem on the Tacoma. I think it's a vicious circle there. If they made the Tacoma suspension heavy enough for the trailer the truck would ride like garbage on the trail, but a few guys want to be able to do trails with a popup camper.

I would never take a 3/4 ton out on anything other than a relatively open trail. The turning radius sucks and you're almost a foot out of a normal Jeep or Tacoma wheel track which lead to some interesting lines to say the least. Even at work I often find places where my 2500 just won't fit on goat paths. My 3/4 ton gasser gets about 11-13 mpg depending on the tank. That just goes to show you how bad the Tundra for mpg when it gets similar IRL numbers.

I think the biggest obstacle to what you want is the market here itself. Government regulations handicap Diesels here which limits there mpg. More than half of trucks sold, and I'd say more the 75% of small trucks sold, end up being used as commuter vehicles where people want a decent ride which effects payload. Between just those two things, not to mention the fact that full sized trucks work here really well, I don't think we will see something like you want for a long time over in NA.

Buy an F150 if you want a full sized with lots of payload and mpg. My wifes V8 gets 18 mpg combined IRL with 2000 km on the clock. I've had more than 2000 lbs in the back of the F150's at work. They handle the load well.

 

Simple economics. They want to upsell you to a much more profitable full size. That is why automakers skimp on features on mid sized trucks in the US. You want mid sized? Be prepared to take a hit with the sepcs.

 

Wrong or not 100% accurate. For example why would GM just spend millions on the new midsize twins just to try and upsell customers to full size, your logic makes no sense in this case. Why even build mid size trucks for that matter. People shopping for midsize typically don't look for all options that are in full-size trucks and yes there are some that would love all the features of a full size but that's not going to happen right this second

 

Nailed it...

 

Another new Tacoma article with absolutely no new info.

http://www.trucktrend.com/future-trucks/1508-2016-toyota-tacoma/

 

That will absolutely not happen but would be cool.

 

Now that is funny!

What would be really cool for my old immature kid mentality would be 3 switchable engine maps: econo, sport, tow. Wont happen but would be really awesome. With todays ECU's and so many engine parameters to tweak there could be a noticeable power/ performance difference with each mode. Yeah yeah, I know its a truck but I love POWER!!! Besides isnt that why people buy TRD superchargers?

 

F150's have this now. It's pretty useless because it does the same thing as the old ECT button and just lets the engine rev out each shift, but my wife loves seeing that sport S pop up on her dash when she hits the button.

 

Yeah, there is a lot that can be tweaked besides shift points. Ignition, intake and exhaust cam timing, direct and port fuel injector timing/duration, etc.
I guess it wouldn't make much sense for Toyota to make it anyway because some idiots would have it in sport mode trying to tow the 6800LB limit up an 8% grade then wonder why the engine blew.

 

....Then you go buy the F150 you been dreaming about

 

4Runner in your future?

 

The Colorado diesel is looking to be close to fill the needs and wants...missing a couple points for me tho', like payload and manual trans...and if they'll offer the oil burner in the no bullshit WT trim...I tend to use and abuse my interiors, no need for the fluff and gee-gaws most people like.

Guessing fuel economy will be in the range I want, since I tend to run my vehicles up to 300'000 miles and beyond...question is: Will the Colorado make it to 300K without much fuss?

I am seeing more and more of them out in the wild, pretty darn good looking truck...though looks don't matter if it can't go the distance.

 

No. Sorry to GM fans but we haven't had a Silverado transfer case make it past 100K miles. Usually shortly after that the engine or tranny grenades. GM's heavier stuff holds up but their half tons don't. I'd expect the Colorado to be the same.

 

Yup lol.

GM has been a good truck for us, but not a great truck. The Duramax 2500 is pretty solid though, other than the odd electrical hiccup.