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When does a lift require...

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by BlindingWhiteTac., Jan 3, 2013.

  1. Jan 3, 2013 at 8:53 PM
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    BlindingWhiteTac.

    BlindingWhiteTac. [OP] Well-Known Member

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    At what point does it become necessary to add a differential drop, carrier bearing drop, longer brake lines, and rear axle shims? How much lift are we talking about? More than one inch, two inches?
     
  2. Jan 4, 2013 at 8:26 PM
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    totmacher

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    Based on the OME lift I just finished installing, I'd say 1-1/2 inch rear and 2 inch front is the maximum without needing extra stuff.

    So far I've only installed the springs and shocks/struts. Below are more detailed observations if you're curious about my install.

    Front:
    3 inches lift (OME strut with 885 coil). Don't really "need" anything more but a few things would be a good idea to add eventually when the money is right.
    -front brake lines are fine, no worries at all.
    -upper balljoint angle nearly maxed out. There is only about 1 inch of downward wheel travel. New upper control arm would be a good idea when the $$ is available to get a little more travel. New UCA would also increase the amount of adjustment available to get the best front end alignment.
    -sway bar is really close to spring. relocate kit would be a good idea.
    -if you want to run tires bigger than stock, you'll need either wheel spacers or aftermarket wheels. Might also need upper control arm for tire clearance. My 265/70-17 on stock 17" wheels just barely clear everything.
    -I'm a prerunner so I didn't have a front diff to worry about but I think I remember hearing that you're good up to about 2 inches before diff drop is really needed.

    Back:
    2 inches lift (OME shocks with OME/Dakar complete leaf packs with 1 leaf removed):
    -NEED longer brake lines. I noticed that putting jack on frame so that axle hangs, the stock brake lines were pulled more than I was comfortable with. Makes me think that if the rear suspension were flexed much offroad, the brake lines would possibly get damaged/stretched. Being able to drop the axle further would also make the leaf pack easier to install. I had to be really careful about not stretching the brake lines when putting in the springs.
    -axle angle shims only needed if you notice vibration from the driveshaft while driving. Same for carrier bearing drop. Some people need them, some don't. I didn't need them.
     
  3. Jan 4, 2013 at 8:29 PM
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    OZ-T

    OZ-T Did you get your precious photos ?

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    Diff drops are ineffective on 2nd gens , cb drops and axle shims are used to correct driveline angles so you don't know what you need till you have lifted
     
  4. Jan 4, 2013 at 8:33 PM
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    OZ I know you know your stuff from what I've seen on prior posts. Why isn't it effective? I've researched lifts and they always offer the diff drop.
     
  5. Jan 4, 2013 at 8:41 PM
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    OZ-T

    OZ-T Did you get your precious photos ?

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  6. Jan 4, 2013 at 9:06 PM
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    Perfect, thank you
     
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