When is the diesel Tacoma coming out?

WOW.............dieseltoyz charges 14,000-16,000 for a turn key conversion.

 

Good question. I don't know.

 

I had one of those troopers, it was probably one of the best trucks I've had but getting parts for it was becoming increasingly difficult. Hence I managed to hoc it for a cool 5K. I guess they were pretty popular

 

the only thing i like about chrysler is their diesel and it isn't even theirs. the only thing i would buy from them is a diesel truck

 

+1. the only chrysler built vehicle i'd buy is a 2003-2005 Ram Cummins 3/4ton 4x4. it'd be my work truck for haulin all my crap and then my Tacoma would end up lifted more, etc.
I really hope Toyota steps up and offers that diesel out of the D4D in the 3rd gen tacomas at least.

 

GM sold their stock in Isuzu last year. Toyota shares a few designs with GM, but they take nothing from GM. Toyota and Hino (which is owned by Toyota) make their own diesel engines. They will not be sourcing anything from Isuzu.

 

That is about right. Remember, it isn't as easy as dropping a new engine in there. You have to change the electrical system (V6 versus turbo diesel 4 cylinder), adapt to the transmission, make changes to the fuel system, remove a bunch of useless gasoline components, fabricate mounts, and make sure everything works.

I have seen his conversions. They are very clean and look like they came from the factory that way. As soon as he can get a D4D engine here in the states (and I can afford it), I will drop one these babies into my Tacoma. Forget about waiting on Toyota, they won't take the risk.

 

Well, that nails it, I'm sold and will get one as soon as possible, a submersible Taco!

 

I'm not so sure. Toyota made a big announcement last year about partnering with Isuzu in developing diesels. Yes, it's targeting the European market, but we won't be far behind - I hope.

 

I lived in Japan for over 25 years, go back a few times a year, and have owned diesel in this order:

1. 1981 Isuzu 4 door sedan diesel - Isuzu is the biggest diesel maker in Japan, huge diesel trucks.

2. 1983 Toyota diesel van - 9 passenger. Toyota also makes diesel trucks in Japan, for many years. They may be teamed with Hino now (things do change in this world), but Toyota has made diesel Tacomas for years there. Friend had one I used quite often there when I needed a truck.

3. 1985 Toyota diesel van - same as above.

4. 1985 Mazda diesel van. Mazda also makes their own diesels - great engines, and in big trucks.

5. 1999 Toyota diesel van, 8 passenger.

Those are the diesels I bought in Japan while living there. Diesel was about $1.00 per gallon cheaper than gasoline in Japan. Still cheaper, but don't know by how much now.

Japan's pollution standards are very strict, so I don't see why, other than Americans aversion to diesel cars, they would not sell here. We are indeed getting ripped off here with diesel prices.

All the above were 4 cylinder, usually about 2 L. engines, and all but the Isuzu turbo charged. Plenty of power.

Toyota, etc., doesn't need to partner with anyone to build diesels! Been doing it for MANY years.

 

The reason diesel is so expensive here is that we are forced to use Ultra low sulfur diesel. Japan and most of europe use diesel#1 I believe. It costs alot to take all the sulfur out. Plus its worse for the engine, sulfur is a lubricant. I read in diesel power mag from an exec at Shell. "Diesel will never be sold for less then gas".

 

^That's a big part of it. The other part is approx 50% of each barrel of oil goes to gas, 25% diesel, and 25% other (plastics, etc.). In comparison, Europe is the opposite, 50% gas and 25% diesel.

 

From everything that I have read about that partnership in shareholder reports, it is going to be mainly for industrial engines (lifters, haulers, marine, etc...)

 

Well... not exactly.

1) Europe uses a blend of petroleum based diesel and biodiesel to get the lower emissions. This allows accounts for lower sulfur emissions, and for better lubricity.

2) Sulfur is not a lubricant at all. However, you are correct that ULSD has lower lubricity than that of the older blends. This is because the process used to remove sulfur from the diesel also removes components that increase lubricity. This is why I mix a minimum of 5% biodiesel in my Jetta TDI.

 

I think you meant to say 50% to diesel and 25% to gasoline.

 

I think thats what he meant also, 50% diesel in europe. Gasoline is a dying fuel, once the public wises up to diesel it will be big I hope. Here in Canada we have had more diesels for a while, older toyota pickups came with 2.4l diesels, Im talking 1984 era. Our market is pretty much lumped into the US market however we have had VW diesels since the 80's. ULSD doesn't make any sense to me. Its more expensive to manufacture, offers lower lubricity, sounds like the oil companies like it tho... Hemp as a biofuel anyone?

 

Hemp or algae!

 

Gas and Diesel come from the same thing I believe. OIL. It all comes from oil.

 

Toyota UK lists the Hilux D-4D towing capacity at only 2250Kg or 4960 Lbs. For me that would make it a less than useless truck.

But with 35 mpg Inter-urban or Highway, that would make it a great "Ranchero" type vehicle.

Why can't any of the auto manufacturers make a powerful, towing capable, usable (non-Plastic) bed, compact truck?

 

Now where did you come up with that idea? DMAX, the joint venture between Izuzu and GM that designed the Duramax, now has GM as the majority owner.