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Which Front/Rear Suspension with lift?

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by archerytarget, Apr 26, 2009.

  1. Apr 26, 2009 at 7:03 PM
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    archerytarget

    archerytarget [OP] BTHOB

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    im gonna order my lift pretty soon and i was wondering what kind of rear shocks i should get. im getting the lift from toytec and they have some procomps and bilsteins on there but i want some shocks that can take a load in the back without sagging very much (especially when hauling a small 10 ft trailer - sometimes a 16 ft.). the shocks on toytec seem to be aimed more towards offroad than anything and i wanted to find out if one of those will work or if i should get something better without breaking the bank. any suggestions? anyone have any pics of their suspension?
    and for the front springs, im not sure if i need to get the standard, medium, or heavy load coils..
    And whats a front differential drop and what does it do?
     
  2. Apr 26, 2009 at 11:45 PM
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    stikkimikki87

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    bilsteins work good in the rear, i personally think the procomp ones are crap. The bilsteins will last 3x as long and are worth the extra money. I think they are valved pretty stiff actually (but im not sure) so they would probably handle the trailer load pretty good. You DONT want something super stiff in the rear or it will ride like ass all the time.

    As far as the front springs, judging by your signature, id get the mediums. that should offset the extra weight of the brush guard. You could also go with the heavy ones if you dont mind a slightly stiffer ride. I would say you would only gain about .5" at max with the heavy over the mediums so thats just a personal decision really.

    The diff drop is a complete waste and is crap. Dont buy that. seriously.
     
  3. Apr 26, 2009 at 11:50 PM
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    archerytarget

    archerytarget [OP] BTHOB

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    ok cool thanks :cool: i'm almost positive im not gonna do it but what is the diff drop?
     
  4. Apr 27, 2009 at 4:47 PM
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    stikkimikki87

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    well supposedly it lowers the differential down so that your cv angles are better, but in the real world this happens:

    "Info on diff drops: I dropped my skidplate and did an oil change. I didn't remove my diff drop and measure but as others have said you aren't dropping the whole diff, just rotating it. The rear, driveshaft side, mount is 6" from the axle centerline. The front, where the drops go in, is 7" from the axle centerline. There for when you drop the front 1" the actual axle centerline only drops .462" (~15/32") Just under 1/2". "

    "Not only does it do hardly anything, it also puts more stress on the rear mount, and makes the u joint angle worse. It also makes the front mounts closer to the rocks."

    "I installed one on mine and noticed no major difference in cv angle. At best it helps your cv angle slightly but not enough to be a life or death mod. If you dont feel like spending the money the answer is an easy no, if you want to throw down a few bones it will make you feel like you are doing everything you can to help the cv angle problem. IMO it doesn't drop it enough to make a significant difference."

    All taken from this ttora thread....

    http://ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=121384&highlight=diff+drop

    To sum it up, it doesn't actually drop the diff it just clocks it down. I have NEVER seen one that did anything good for CV angles. I know most people have them and think its great, but its a total waste.
     
  5. Apr 27, 2009 at 6:23 PM
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    ETaco23

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    I did mine bc my inner cv's where leaking, and I had a slight vibe. All is good now. So in some cases it does help! I feel that its better to do it, then to wish you did... just my 2cts.
     
  6. Apr 27, 2009 at 9:36 PM
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    thanks for the advice guys :cool:
     
  7. Apr 28, 2009 at 4:17 PM
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    archerytarget

    archerytarget [OP] BTHOB

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    another question..as i'm installing the lift and replacing the suspension, do i really need to replace the front shock springs too?
     
  8. Apr 28, 2009 at 7:19 PM
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    ETaco23

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    It wouldnt be a bad idea! the light springs(I think there 881) will work good. It would ride alot better too.
     
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