Which is more "bulletproof", First gen or second gen?

This leaves no question about your intentions sir...

 

Seems like a fitting place to put this.



Seen this at work the other day, must have been fate. Thought to myself.. which gen is the best gen?

(Little guy in the middle is me)

 

1st gens were not built in japan. at least i dont think. all 4runners are made in japan though

 

1st gens made in Cali. Tesla owns the plant now.

 

1st gen FTMFW.

 

Not like the odyssey.. that is an Odyssey! LOL

 

yeah in fresno. it was a GM toyota plant and they bailed, so tesla swooped it up

 

No but his avatar pic sure does haha

 

Yes I have to agree.. very creative avatar pic LOL!

 

Wow. I never realized how small our trucks are compared to the third gens. I guess they call them compact trucks for a reason.

 

I think you mean Fremont. NUMMI used to be in Fremont, CA until they went belly up in 2010. Production then shifted to San Antonio, Texas and Tijuana, Mexico. I drive by their old factory all the time. Toyota produced the Tacoma there from 1995-2010. It's nice and shiny now after Tesla took over.

I highly recommend you guys check out the story This American Life did on NUMMI and the GM/Toyota joint venture. Basically GM quality was terrible and Toyota came in to show them how the Japanese did it. The reason why Toyota (and Japanese cars & technology) is so reliable is because they have a different mindset than we do. They actually care and take pride in the product they produced.

 

yes i meant fremont

 

Yeah its pretty wild eh, ya know theyre bigger but seeing them all together side by side really puts it in perspective. you can see how theyve grown between each generation

 

I have a 2000 and a 2007. The 2000 is about to hit 300k. I had to do the heads on it six months ago. When I had the heads off and checked the cylinder walls there was no lip at the top of the cylinder head. Every other motor that I have worked on has had a small lip up there. That lip is dew to wear on the cylinder walls. Not on this 2.7l 4 banger. I don't know what blend of steel Toyota use but it's meant to last for ever. I haven't had to disassemble my 07 to compare to but I hope it's the same.

 

I like that statement and I have to agree with you. I have spent my whole life growing up looking forward to the day that I could buy myself a brand spanking new rig, and now that I can I still haven't. Ive yet to own a vehicle from this century even haha I just have a hard to believing the quality is still there. Even with Toyota. I almost pulled the trigger on the 3rd gen a few months back but decided to buy an old 1st gen. My gf gives me shit all the time for it but a friend of mine bought a 2016 last year and seeing all the bullshit he goes through at the dealer, in every other week for this and that its a pain in the ass.

Since ive never actually owned a newer vehicle I cant really justify it but I still like to pretend im an old man and say things like "THEY DONT BUILD EM LIKE THEY USED TO!" hahaha

 

1st gen

 

My family has a beat to shit 97 sr5 4x4.. I drove it in high school and my dad drives it now as a daily. The odo reads 243,000 and it stopped working in 2008!

I've got 47,800 in my 2015 and I need it to go 500,000.. I feel like it can, with synthetic oil, factory filters and maybe a chain and guides of needed

 

That was a great episode.

 

I own an 2nd gen and my buddy has a 1st. I wouldn't hesitate to take either on a road trip or expedition. Across the desert.

The 2nd gen has more room but there is something about the 1st gen. I know I don't want a turd gen but going back and doing it over, it's still tough