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Who’s had good luck with Saf-t-cap ?

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by TForan, Nov 23, 2022.

  1. Nov 23, 2022 at 9:53 AM
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    TForan

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    I’m still waiting for my seller’s truck to come in , so I’ve had many hours fretting about what I might have missed with the frame. He’s the original owner and Toyota sprayed their undercoating on after they determined it was solid. I didn’t drop the spare, so I hope the rear frame member is still serviceable. If not, I have an excellent weld shop nearby ,that can do the work. He only averaged 4k a year and very little winter driving, but you never know. The price is excellent and it’s a clean one up top.

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  2. Nov 23, 2022 at 4:23 PM
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    I wouldn't do the safe-t-cap unless you see holes in the frame.
     
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  3. Nov 23, 2022 at 7:39 PM
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    Ok, why is that ?
     
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    I’ve had great results with safe-T-cap.
    I’ve done a few of these frames. The Safe-T-Caps can get pricey but it saves time and they look nice.
     
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    Remains to be seen I bought the tires and wheels the rest came along
    Safety caps are good for people in a hurry to save time.

    For those that lack the skill to fabricate what is needed.

    I am sure the new prices are quite expensive.

    You have already checked with your local fab shop they will take on the job?

    Does their insurance mandate removing the fuel tank?
     
  6. Nov 24, 2022 at 7:18 AM
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    What do you gain by fabricating the parts as opposed to buying pre fab? I did check with a local shop and they said ,no problem.
     
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    Safe-t-caps are designed so that you cut off part of the lower portion of the frame during install. There’s no point of installing one if the frame is good.
     
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    Remains to be seen I bought the tires and wheels the rest came along
    Making your own is much cheaper even with the added labor . Safety Caps are expensive but meet a need.

    I bought a 48"x96"x10 gauge sheet ($50.00) cut and bent it to 3"x5" x96" that I use to make just what I need.

    Even more so if the steel is in the rack before shortages and price increases.
     
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  9. Nov 24, 2022 at 7:39 AM
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    I don’t have the ability or time to do it myself. Seems like it would be hard to match CNC cut parts.
     
  10. Nov 24, 2022 at 7:45 AM
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    Remains to be seen I bought the tires and wheels the rest came along

    Not really we did fine before computers.

    CNC shines when your cutting fancy patterns or a quantity of parts.
     
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    Inspect the frame… if it has no holes, clean it up and paint it. Repairing a solid frame just shortens the life of the frame. Those caps are when the frames too far gone. It’ll buy time
     
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    some before and after pics of Safe-T-Caps
     
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    You're freaking out and the truck isn't even in your hands.

    You're being told to not put on Safety caps if the frame is solid because it's a heat treated frame. Applying heat yet again will only cause it to become brittle. So again if no holes, leave it alone.

    Prefab parts cost a lot. The reason for being suggested to have your shop do it themselves (if needed) is because any fabricator can easily cut large portions of metal to fit where they need to go. It doesn't require a cnc plasma table, hell there are guys still using angle grinders to cut large sheets and have made their own trailers or more.

    You said you lack the skill or know how, so why worry about it if you already have a great shop for the job? Don't waste more money than you have to.
     
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    Hell there's a member here that took our advice, literally, and patched up her own frame with a budget friendly 110v flux welder.

    She had never taken up such a job but with a little advice given, she patched up a hole in her frame.

    Not saying you have to do the job yourself, especially if you don't already own a welder. Just saying a lot of things are easier to do than you'd think. She didn't even know how to weld.

    Only hard part is, taking parts off to gain access to something.
     
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    I think I’d rather leave it to the pros. As Clint said, “ A man has to know his limitations”.
     
  17. Nov 24, 2022 at 10:04 AM
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    Just goes back to my first post; any reputable fabricator (even a home-garage fabricator) will easily cut out what you need and weld it on.
     
  18. Nov 24, 2022 at 10:24 AM
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    Thanks, I’ll have them take a look at it first. Hopefully, all I’ll need is to clean up the frame and respray it. It has whatever Toyota sprayed on it. CRC ?
     
  19. Nov 24, 2022 at 10:48 AM
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    Like others said the safetcap is designed for frames that are already structurally compromised. They do make frame strengthening kits for the rear if you plan to add a lot of weight or wheel it hard. Otherwise I wouldn’t worry about it.
     
  20. Nov 24, 2022 at 10:52 AM
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    Thank you.
     
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