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Who can advise regarding TPMS programming?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Green Laced Taco, Feb 16, 2024.

  1. Feb 16, 2024 at 9:59 AM
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    Green Laced Taco

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    My truck is a 2008 TRD Sport. The computer is working fine, the sensors are all broadcasting and can be read by a TPMS programmer tool. I put 2016 TRD Sport wheels with those 3rd Gen Sensors and now getting a TMPS dashboard warning light that is staying on. Any ideas for a solution will be appreciated. Here is info on old and newer parts. The old 2008 TRD wheels came with sensors with FCC IDs of PAXPVM107J. The truck needs and has 5 tpms in total. There are 4 alloy wheels, and 1 steel spare. The 2016 TRD Alloy wheels have FCC IDs of PAXPMVC015. The sensors in the new wheels, can only be read when a scanning tool is set to 2016 Tacoma TRD. If the tool is left set on 2008 TRD, the 2016 sensors cannot be read. The Steel Spare, can be read with a setting set of 2008 Tacoma TRD Steel wheel. Once they have the 5 sensors codes in the scanning tool, the Truck seems to accept the programming, but is throwing the TPMS light to come on. I want a solution to get the TPMS warning light to turn off. Can a 2008 2nd gen truck read/see 3rd gen TMPS? Do different FCC IDs cause the light to stay on? Is there a signal conflicting with the spare causing the warning light because it now has 2 different FCC IDs, broadcasting 315Mhz? The 2016 tpms have a part number of PMVC015, but my old 2nd Gen sensors have a part number of PVM107J. The oem toyota part number for the 2008 TRD Sport truck Alloy sensors are 42607-04010. The 2016 TRD Sport OEM 3rd Gen TPMS Part number shows as being 42607-04020. Alloy wheels have 20 degree angle sensors and the steel one has a 40 degree angle. Toyota Dealer stated that both the 2008 and 2016 sensors show "PMVC015". Is my problem that I am mixing PMVC015 and PVM107J? The sensors are made by Paciific Industries, the OEM Toyota manufacturer of the TPMS, and are all 315Mhz. What is the solution?
     
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  2. Feb 16, 2024 at 10:15 AM
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    I used autel mx sensors in my 09 when I put on my 2022 wheels. Went from steel to aluminum. Only downfall is you have to find a ship that has the tool, we do at work so it was an easy decision. As far as I know the 3rd gen sensors won’t work in the second gen trucks regardless of wheel material.
     
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  3. Feb 16, 2024 at 10:39 AM
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    would the 2nd gen sensors fit the 3rd gen wheels could be a much easier solution to the issue?
     
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  4. Feb 16, 2024 at 10:51 AM
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    I just got off the phone with a Toyota dealer's service guy who is NOT a tech, but was adamant that they swap wheels all the time and that 3rd Gen sensors on a 2nd Gen, work. I am not confident he is correct. Does your swapped wheels have all the same 5 sensors? My truck requires 5 sensors can be read, or it will generate a code. A Pepboys shop manager told me that I have to get 5 new sensors that match and the truck can read. I think the truck is having trouble reading different years, though they are using the 315Mhz frequency. I want to avoid buying 5 new sensors. When the old wheels and sensors were on the truck, there was no problem or warning light on my dash. The Toyota tech wanted me to bring in the truck. He said to find out of the truck computer is working. I said it is. Then he said bring it in so we can see if the sensors are working. I told him they are. That two different shops have been able to read the sensors and the computer is talking with the TPMS programming tool. Wish he would have just said he doesn't know the answer.
     
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  5. Feb 16, 2024 at 10:53 AM
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    I can’t read your entire run on paragraph in the first post, but 3rd gen sensors use a different frequency than 2nd gen. They are not compatible.

    Now, if you buy aftermarket ones that support multiple frequencies (like the Autel ones I have), they will work with reprogramming.
     
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    I don't think they will. The old and new sensors have a different angle between the schrader valve and the sensor.
     
  7. Feb 16, 2024 at 11:11 AM
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    Sorry about the length of the post. As I did not know what info was needed to get an accurate reply.
     
  8. Feb 16, 2024 at 11:15 AM
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    Just got off the phone with tpms.com and was very informative. He stated all Alloy wheels have 20 degree sensors and steel wheels have 40 degree sensors. He agreed with you - that 3rd Gen sensors are NOT compatible. That I have to get 2nd Gen OEM compatible sensors. He directed me to this webpage, https://www.tpms.com/2008-Toyota-Tacoma-TPMS-alloy-wheels-s/4743.htm for their selection. When I questioned him on seeing they have different part numbers, than the OEM part, he said all the ones listed have 20 degree sensors that are compatible to the 2008 2nd Gen truck. Added that if I want a single sensor for the Steel wheel I have to navigate to that other list. If you have anything else to suggest, I am open to your shared experience. Thank you.
     
  9. Feb 16, 2024 at 11:20 AM
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    My old sensors are the original with the 2008 truck and already way passed life expectantcy and need to be replaced. So there is no reason to swap the old sensors into the new. Any recommendations for aftermarket brand sensors?
     
  10. Feb 16, 2024 at 11:25 AM
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    cant remember the exact ones, but they are GM sensors, can be had off Amazon pretty cheap just need to program.

    think these are them. but i could be wrong I've a list somewhere at home from my Subaru days.

    https://www.amazon.com/Denso-550-01...7------------1&vehicleName=2009+Toyota+Tacoma
     
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  11. Feb 16, 2024 at 2:21 PM
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    Check RockAuto, they usually have good prices and Densos. That's where I bought my replacements.
     
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  12. Feb 17, 2024 at 6:25 AM
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    Had a conversation with Toyota Parts dept. Was told the oem sensor for ALLOY wheel tpms were originally part # 42607-06011 and have been updated to 42607-06012, and are 20 degrees. Was also informed the oem sensor for STEEL wheel tpms are part # 42607-04010 and are 40 degrees.
     
  13. Feb 17, 2024 at 12:24 PM
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    I put my sensors in Method bead grip wheels. Broke one in the process and replaced with matching one. Took to Costco for programming. It works.

    don’t know if it’s even worth having sensors. If a tire goes flat it’s pretty obvious without requiring a warning light to know.

    don’t recall it ever being a concern on previous older vehicles that didn’t have TPMS and was happy they didn’t.

    May be possible to delete it.
    Only feature TPMS has given me is finicky headache of dealing with spare and changing temperatures where a warning isn’t really needed to know that (temp drop = pressure drop)
     
  14. Feb 19, 2024 at 3:25 AM
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    Not sure wher OP is at, but unfortunately some of us live in states where they tell you whether or not you are an adult. State inspections mandatory, and the TPMS light must be off to pass. On our Suby we set the insp in summer with stock rims, winter rims and tires are just steelies with no sensors, and a light on for the duration... we're such rebels :spy:

    Edit to add: It is actually quite hilarious though. Plenty of older vehicles here and everywhere that don't have this world saving "feature", and still allowed to exists. It's only a problem if it doesn't work on a vehicle that happens to have this function.
     
  15. Feb 19, 2024 at 6:06 AM
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    The steel spare on my 06 uses the alloy wheel sensors. It is not like the regular steel wheels. I assume the 08 is the same.

    Like others said gen 3 TPMS modules will not work in a gen 2.
     

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