Who plans to skip 4th gen entirely?

Fixed.

 

And yet you still can't put a sheet of plywood or pallet flat in the bed between the wheel wells...lol

 

If you utilize the cutouts in the bed you can carry sheets flat, but yeah it's not between the wheel wells.

Another user made this:

 

Yeah, there are a few tricks, nothing as easy as being able to slide a pallet of material in at the materials store and take it off with the tractor and pallet forks when you get home. Using the boards presents not only a stability issue but a bed depth issue as well (puts a stack of material up higher than I like). On a heavy load the integrity of the boards also becomes a thing, and I don't want a heavy pallet sitting on top of some boards too high above the bed collapsing...not a fun day.

I know first world problems...Once I saw that Ford figured it out with the Ranger I was hoping Toyota would as well. I love the midsize truck category but that is one of its drawbacks and my back reminds me every spring and summer when I am unloading it...lol.

 

I didn't know that. Not planning on buying a Ranger, but I'll have to check it out just out of curiosity. Kudos to Ford for pulling that off.

 

Toyota always ~3-5 years behind the current market offerings but they are damn reliable and hold resale value well.

 

LOL... I totally skipped the lame (weak engine, terrible trans) 3rd gen waiting for the 4th. But it didn't come in time, so last January I got a Tundra. I might downsize back to a Tacoma in a couple of years.

 

Isn’t this what trailers are for?

 

Yep

A pallet of animal feed or wood pellets is typically over 2000lbs, well over the Tacoma’s (or even the Tundra’s) payload capacity.

6000-6700 lbs towing capacity, no problem…trailers are easier to load/unload anyways.

That or get it delivered.

Who buys a Tacoma for doing work anyways? Can’t remember the last time I hauled plywood…

 

And/or full size or even HD trucks.

 

I have trailers also, but sometimes its just easier using the truck. I put pretty much anything heavy I store on the property, material, mulch, wood, garden plants/trees etc for ease of movement using the tractor. It's not a deal breaker to not be able to put something in the truck bed, it would just be nice. It's probably the number one thing I miss when I stopped keeping a full size truck around.

Like I said, its not a deal breaker but it sure would be nice...I always figured it was just one of those things you had to give up on a midsize, but Ford proved otherwise I guess.

 

I wish delivery was that easy, my place is a little tricky to get to and since I have a bridge on the lower driveway that doesn't hold tons of weight, moving stuff from the upper to the lower, I still usually end up using the truck in some capacity to get it done. I don't haul stuff often, but I do haul enough materials in the spring that it would be a little easier to just lift and move it where I want it instead of loading the pallet off the back of the truck to do the same thing.

 

I will skip this generation. Just because I’m broke

 

Yeah, everyone’s situation is different. I am too cheap to get stuff delivered. Couple yards of topsoil or gravel is a $60 delivery fee, and they are only 2 miles away. I’ll just run up there with my trailer.

 

There isn't any need to fabricate price points and options configured per truck, people can google. The Base F150 Lightning 2024 starts at ~$52K with a horrible 230 miles of range, which realistically is probably closer to ~150 in real world scenarios. It's actually pretty disingenuous to state only the power difference and not any other features or limitations. Additionally, the Lightning is a full sized truck. Most people are not cross shopping between a mid and full.

There is a reason why Ford is cutting production on the Lightning. It's a failed product.

Also, cherry on top:
https://history-computer.com/5-reasons-to-avoid-a-ford-f-150-lightning-at-all-costs/

I'm all for electric vehicles. But the Lightning isn't it. I would get a Cybertruck before I touch a Ford product.

 

You can get an F150 lightning XLT for ~$50k right now, plus a $7500 tax credit. That makes the real world cost ~$43k, so what is the fabricated price point and options? The Lightning Pro/XLT gets a ~210 mile range in the real world while pulling 70 MPGe and doing 0-60 in 4 seconds. Only thing that truly sucks is the towing range but that is true of all BEV's.

The fact it's a full size for the same price as mid size isn't a good luck for the mid-size that is offering you all around less truck.....

The 4th gen Tacoma is also barely a mid size by 2 inches of width and 1 inch of height less than an F150.

You can also go get a non electric full size for $40k right now, I'll gladly post you a more than comparable 2024 Chevy 1500 Custom 4x4 for $40k if you try to say that is "fabricated" also lol.

 

But you're comparing a base model to a loaded Tacoma. A Pro is equipped more like a SR or SR5 than a TRD OR.

 

So aside from the massive power and fuel economy difference, what are the other differences between the "loaded" Tacoma TRD OR and the base Lightning Pro?

You can get an XLT for $50k as well btw, minus $7500 makes it $42.5k for an XLT

 

I hesitate to say there are any good deals out there right now, but prices for full size are coming back to earth. If you need a truck for truck things ...

 

Yep and with the price of these mid-sizes going to the moon and the size of them getting larger it really makes little to no sense why anyone would by a mid-size at this price point.

The 4th gen Tacoma doesn't do anything better than a full size and that even includes fuel economy which should have been its one saving grace.....