Why buy TRD OffRoad with manual?

You cant even get that combo here.

 

This sums it up. Two additions. First is the 4.30 gears in the 3rd Gen manuals, second is the increased holding power in down hill off road decents when in 4lo first gear.

 

This is my first truck and I went with the manual. I just came from an 2012 Jeep JKU auto and loved it. Maybe the Jeep set up is different than the tacos but I never had issues with what gear I wanted on or off road. I personally feel the auto helped me before a better off road driver for the fact that I could focus on which lines to take and how to approach obstacles. My first manual off road vehicle was a 2003 Jeep and all I was worried about was working the clutch properly and learn how to drive off road at the same time. I burnt through a clutch in the one year I had that Jeep. Now that I know better I am ready to tackle the trail in a manual again with more off road knowledge now than I have 7-8 years ago.

I think the manual is just as capable off road as any auto because it really comes down to the driver more than anything in my opinion.

 

Three years ago I would have said manual. My FJ Cruiser has manual transmission and it was excellent off road.

But I had a back injury and driving a stick with a back injury for a month sucks as each time I pushed the clutch to shift, the movement caused excruciating pain in my back.

As I get older, I see automatic transmissions make the best sense. Plus with Crawl Control on the automatic off road trims, it just does everything for you.

I remember reading an article on Expedition Portal saying that writer who had experience with an 80-series Land Cruiser with lockers and a 200-series Land Cruiser with Crawl Control, would take the 200 series with no question.

People may think Crawl Control is a gimmick, but I think it's an important tool and it can do amazing things from videos I've seen with Land Cruisers and 4Runners and 3rd gen Tacoma's equipped with them.

 

Asking why some people but a MT as opposed to why some buy an AT is like asking why some people buy Blue as opposed to Black. In many cases it's personal choice. Even if MT was more expensive to buy, and operate, I would still get one.

 

Luckily for us it is cheaper to buy and operate. Win win for us MT fanboys.

 

The only nice thing about the TRD OR is the rear locker.

 

Internet high five! Great combo!

 

I have a summer car that's manual. I'm planning on getting an automatic offroad because 1.) I don't plan on taking it on some super difficult trails and 2.) It's going to be my daily. You can argue that manual isn't a lot of work and I'd agree but I'd just prefer an automatic for daily driving.

 

Well put, my man.

Point number 3. is super important. Auto's can't even fathom that idea.

 

And that is the beauty of having the options. You can get what you like and someone else can get what they like. What would be really nice, is since they have the ability to put a manual with both engines to offer the manual or automatic on every trim level/body style. Then everyone could have exactly what they want instead of settling someplace.

 

Sure you can, you'll just find a lot of clutch material in your transmission pan and then a couple weeks later your 1st gear starts to slip. Ask me how I know.

 

Automatics have better torque multiplication characteristics than manuals, that makes them better than manuals for towing. Auto's also allow a driver to keep both hands on the wheel while maneuvering tight or technical obstacles in offroad situations. My hat is tipped to the auto as a better transmission choice for overall truck use.

 

Oh please! Tell me how you know!

 

Because this is AMERICA and I can drive what I want.

Also, I'm a man, and I like playing with my stick

 

Who is shifting gears in the middle of a technical obstacle? The gear shift isn't a grab handle. Or maybe it just is.

If there is a torque multiplication advantage with autos, it's somewhat irrelevant if your motor has the torque to handle the load you've selected anyways. If you're struggling with the load (overloaded) that you gotta worry about torque multiplication (which I think you mean staying in power band) then you certainly have to worry about overheating your tranny fluid. Not necessarily a clear advantage for auto/manual. You know, just to be argumentative

 

I've driven manuals so long, if I did feel like I needed to shift I'd probably still try in the automatic. That could be bad, so for me the manual always wins

 

You'd be surprised how many people I've seen grab for an imaginary gear while wheelin and end up in neutral. I've also seen people miss gear engagement in starting an obstacle and roll back. It's just easier to grab the wheel and keep your hands planted there.

 

You're wheeling with some inept ppl methinks.

Also I added more to the last post you quoted.

 

Whether auto or manual there is always going to be a wide range of skilled drivers when it comes to offroading. fighting over manual vs auto I think is stupid. This thread will just turn into a 20+ page argument. Either way you can climb shit if you know what you're doing, and most people probably started by running gravel trails anyways. I think we should take the time to educate auto drivers on what not to do, such as stopping in the middle of a rocky climb when a manual driver is behind you.