Why do toyota's powertrains suck?

I can’t understand what all the complaining is about with the Tacoma v6. It’s a truck. It puts out 278hp. My old 93 z28 Camaro only put out 275hp....and that was a 5.7L V8. The truck isn’t a race car because it’s a truck. It’s also a lot faster than my other tacoma (2000 5 lug). So, if you find your third gen tacoma going too slow, just push the gas pedal down a bit more. Otherwise I think the power plant in the Tacoma is pretty reasonable and well rounded.

 

I do not think the Tacoma power trains suck, I would not say they stand out, on the other hand. You want to buy number 1! You have "X" amount of $. The guy making the truck has to power it make it ride good make it cost reasonable and market it. I think Toyota has done a hell of a job over all.

 

Lol troll lallalalalala

Where does this dipshit get off calling out "Toyota" for a shitty power train and only describes one vehicle as an example.
Bud do you even know what engine is in your whip?
Sure youre not driving a nissan?

 

I think it's the fact that it's an Atkinson Cycle engine, which is more at home in a car...

Also, I don't give a shit if it's a Toyota or a Ford. The 3.5L V6 in the 3rd gen has a 10,000-mile oil change interval. The typical interval is 3,000-5,000 miles. My friend is a trained mechanic and he thinks the increased interval in newer vehicles is shortening the life of the engines.

 

Care to elaborate why it is more at home in a car? I looked at Mine and it s eked to be in a truck.

My old friend’s dad who had a garage when I was growing up said it didn’t matter what kind of oil you use as long as you change it regularly. 10k between changes makes me nervous.

 

I just heard that somewhere. An Atkinson Cycle engine is meant for economy. In my opinion, in a truck (any truck), displacement and torque are better than outright power (a perfect example would be the 4.9L "Big Six" used in Ford trucks and vans until 1996). The aforementioned 4.9L was a bit low in the horsepower department, but had gobs of low-end torque and was damn near bulletproof.

I think certain Toyota products are boring (Camry, Corolla, Yaris), some are overrated and rather ugly (Prius), some have gone down in overall quality (Sienna; dashboard is hard plastic), but that all Toyota products are good and reliable overall. Sometimes you get a lemon. The first year for a redesign always has some bugs that need to be worked out. I honestly think that the 3rd gen Tacoma, like most new vehicles, is just too tech-oriented.

 

Engine type/advances in oil tech. European auto makers have been doing extended length oil changes for some time.
Now im sure if you read the fine print it would state variables such as engine use ie.towing, racing ect.
Casterol oil (edge) used to state on thier jugs that it would last 25000km without degrading.

 

My dad has a 2013 Honda Pilot Touring 4WD. All 2009 Pilots come from the factory with trailer hitches and the necessary add-ons like oil coolers. The 4WD models are capable of towing 4,500 pounds. The Pilot takes regular/87, but owners manual manual recommends using premium/93 when towing. We have a 17-foot boat that weighs 3,500 pounds (boat and trailer), and my dad puts premium in the Pilot whenever we are towing...

 

I feel like the 3rd gen is the LAST of the conventional tacomas. With the move to electric/hybrid vehicles, I feel they'll keep it and tweak it for the next 5 years but put engineering into something bigger down the road.
Look at the minimal amount of funds that went into the 3rd gen engineering to begin with (basically a 2nd gen with diff engine/trans and 5 year old tech). Something tells me Toyota is working on the future and not the now.

 

I'm just going to drive my Tacoma until it falls apart. Once I have a bit more money, I'll probably buy a 2014-2015 4x4, or even a Tundra, and keep my 2010 RC as a spare vehicle. My uncle says my truck could last half-a-million miles before needing major engine work...

 

Any vehicle can be reliable and last a ridiculously long time if you take care of it!

At the same time, any vehicle can be a piece of shit if you don't take care of it!

EXAMPLE: The receptionist at my gym had a 2002 Chevy Malibu with the 3.1L V6. Her husband, who works in sales and drives a lot, bought the car brand new in 2002. The car had almost 340K miles on it when the coolant starting mixing with the oil in 2012, and the car was retired and replaced. The mechanic who regularly serviced the car was right next door to the gym, so I walked over there and the mechanic let me make a video. The car was not running very well at the time I made the video, so I didn't try to start it...

Also, this was a FULLY LOADED Malibu. These cars are known for being bland, no-frills rentals. Air-conditioning was standard on all models. Later on power windows and locks became standard. This example had power everything (including seats), leather seats, sunroof, and CD/cassette stereo! That's in addition to ICE COLD A/C (still working and supposedly never serviced, 10 years and almost 340K miles later) and cruise control (also fully operational and used regularly due to owner's job in sales).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zho-twjYbBs

 

My best friend's 2003 Highlander Limited had 185K on it in the summer of 2013. His dad bought it new and gave it to him in 2011 when he bought a new car. The only problem that Highlander ever had in the decade my friend's family owned it was that the A/C abruptly went from finger-numbingly and nipple-hardeningly ICE COLD to merely cool in the summer of 2013, during a brutal heat wave. We'd carpooled to a movie one Friday night in the interest of saving gas, and on the way to my house from my other friend's house, it was still fucking hot despite being like 11pm. My one friend didn't have a driver's license (still doesn't). My friend and I would take turns doing the driving. When Doug drove, he took the Highlander. When I drove, I took my mom's 2004 Honda Odyssey EX. When it was just Mike and me, I took the Tacoma. Compared to the Highlander's sudden drop in A/C performance, the A/C in both the Odyssey and my Taco would freeze you right out of the vehicle.

I'd noticed that the A/C was struggling earlier that evening. I turned the A/C all the way up, realized it still wasn't getting that cold, and said "Doug, I think you need to get the A/C recharged." Doug agreed with me. Unfortunately, before he could make an appointment to get the A/C in the Highlander recharged, he rear-ended somebody doing about 40 MPH and totaled it.

THE GOOD NEWS: My friend was unhurt and while he got a citation, he didn't get any points or lose his license. My friend also had accident forgiveness, so his insurance rates didn't go up. On top of that, getting an airbag to the face convinced my friend to drive much more carefully.

THE VERDICT: Toyotas are incredibly reliable and incredibly safe!

 

Its a toyota........what the hell is a major repair lol. Some of the guys here can tear an engine out, apart and rebuild in less than 3 days. The only issue is that parts are exspensive. I could see with proper maintenance and driving environment a 2nd gen easily making it to 500k miles. I say proper driving environment because up here weather destroys engines with cold and hot through out the year. Never once have i seen a vehicle over 400000km.....roughly 250000mi

 

I see very little power in tacomas BUT i sure love the standard transmissions! IF you want power the tundra is your new friend..

 

Why doesn't the Tacoma have rear disk brakes, it's almost 2018!

Forgive me....

 

Funny enough, just this morning driving in on the Freeway here in Southern CA I was thinking the same thing. I have a first gen 5 speed V6 4X4 and the Supercharger I just installed has by no means made it fast, but has given it the power that it should have had from the factory. The whine is cool when in the gas, but I won't be racing anyone soon.

 

Lol

 

My mom's sister's husband's second niece's father's brother has a 1903 Panhard with 60 quadrillion miles on it that has a hole in the side of the block but still runs. But Panhard is really behind the curve on modern conveniences and needs to up their game

What was the question? Oh yeah the OP bungled the OP by posting vague 1st gen information in the 3rd gen forum, and everyone dove in with no fucking clue to gang fuck the football.

Well done, all. Well done.

 

The 2018s will have 4 wheel drums...I can't wait! No reason to buy a 2017 right now