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Why is scanguage so much more?

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by Oat, Jan 16, 2012.

  1. Jan 16, 2012 at 8:21 PM
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    Oat

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    Ultraguage has more display options that scanguage, and is less money, a bigger screen, so why is scanguage more money. Is there a hidden benefit im missing?:eek:
     
  2. Jan 16, 2012 at 8:26 PM
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    I have a scanguage.

    To be honest, i think its because it can read more code,fix them, and you can create new modes to track time and distance. Also it spits the information out faster. Thats all i got. i use mine to show my voltage,mpg,water temp,and current mpg(short term) and the fill-up function is awesome at the pump as it computes the amount of gas you used within a .10 of a gallon. Pretty sweet little gadget.

    Hope that helped :eek:
     
  3. Jan 16, 2012 at 8:29 PM
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    The main reason I went with the scanguage is the ability to monitor Transmission temps, which was just programmed in xguage a couple of months ago for later model tacos.
     
  4. Jan 16, 2012 at 8:36 PM
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    chris4x4

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    Ultra guage can "fix" all codes, and read them, and it refreshes just as fast as SG.
     
  5. Jan 16, 2012 at 8:36 PM
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    UG is the way to go.
     
  6. Jan 16, 2012 at 8:40 PM
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    I bought my scangauge 7 years ago when it was the only kid on the block, I'd go UG now. I'm surprised scangauge can still charge that much more.
     
  7. Jan 25, 2012 at 8:59 AM
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    I agree that the Scanguage II retail price is high but Amazon has them on sale for $125 occasionally, thats where I got mine.
     
  8. Jan 25, 2012 at 9:22 AM
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    Probably because it has more name recognition. It was sold long before the UG came on the scene. I have an Aeroforce gauge.
     
  9. Jan 25, 2012 at 9:28 AM
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    I thought the scangauge refreshed quicker (irrelevant because the UG still refreshes about every second it seems).

    But, for all the extra $$$, you get to choose the background color :D (UG back ground colors can be switched if you're handy with LED's).
     
  10. Jan 25, 2012 at 9:30 AM
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    I have done a little research and could not really see much difference between ScanGauge and UltraGauge. I ordered the UltraGauge last night. I am excited like a kid before Christmas.
     
  11. Jan 25, 2012 at 2:39 PM
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    You could also buy a ODBII bluetooth adapter and send the info to a smartphone.
     
  12. Jan 26, 2012 at 12:24 AM
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ay-ZvTn3fLo

    for anybody interested in knowing about what Evil Monkey said was an alternative
     
  13. Feb 15, 2012 at 9:30 AM
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    I think there is name confusion here. Both the Ultragauge and Scangauge are plastic rectangular devices. The Aeroforce Interceptor is often referred to as a scan gauge (because that's what it is) and this creates the confusion. The Aeroforce gauge updates over 20x second, which allows it to effectively monitor things like rpm, ignition advance, performance timing etc. The UG and SG update very slowly, like a couple times per second, and are only good for monitoring temperatures for this reason.

    The reason why the Aeroforce gauge costs more is:

    1. More expensive to manufacture - convenient standard round gauge vs awkward square/rectangle. Billet aluminum bezel options. This is a big difference, the Aeroforce probably costs 3x that of the UG in hardware and assembly costs but this pays off significantly in appearance once installed.

    2. Numerous hardware options for customization vs one size fits all

    3. More advanced communications - allows for significantly faster response as well as access to enhanced parameters such as transmission temperature and fuel injector pulse width and duty cycle.

    4. Two analog inputs so that critical things like A/F ratio, oil pressure, or oil temp can be added and displayed. UG and SG do not have this option.

    5. Record and playback options. I don't think either of the other two have this.

    6. The Aeroforce has separate high intensity warning lights that can be set to monitor any OBD2 or analog input.

    7. Aeroforce can accurately measure 0-60, 1/8, and 1/4 mile times since is it updating so quickly.

    6. Aeroforce is made in the USA

    It comes down to whether looks and functionality are important enough to pay a little extra. If you just want something inexpensive that gives you basic info save your money and get the UG or SG. If you're serious about performance or off-roading, or just want something that will look good go with the Aeroforce.

    Todd
     
  14. Feb 20, 2012 at 7:45 PM
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    Well I guess Todd is a bit biased. :rolleyes: Great write up, dude.

    I drive my Taco about 1200 miles a week, and I need to maximize my fuel economy. This is my reason for wanting to more closely monitoring my engine performance. 1/4 mile time, and other features do not concern me, I just need to know how far down that I need to put my foot to maintain the best mpg that I possibly can.
    The Aeroforce has a lot of functions that I don't need, but I'm wondering if it can help me maintain maximum fuel mileage.
    I'm planning on buying a Scan Gauge II, mainly because before reading this thread, I had no idea that there were other products on the market that had similar functionality, if not better.
    What do you think would be better suited for me?
     
  15. Feb 20, 2012 at 7:56 PM
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    Will the Aeroforce monitor miles to empty on a 2011 tacoma V6? Do you have to purchase a separate kit to monitor this?
     
  16. Feb 20, 2012 at 8:54 PM
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    Scangauge and Ultragauge "estimate" miles to empty. Not sure what Aeroforce does.
     
  17. Feb 20, 2012 at 9:03 PM
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    I don't think there was any name confusion, no one was discussing your Aeroforce Interceptor.
     
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  19. Mar 22, 2012 at 1:45 AM
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    So the Ultragauge doesn't monitor transmission temperature? I'm just wondering because I just bought a camper trailer and I would like to monitor my trans temp (as well as fuel consumption). I would prefer to buy the Ultragauge over the Scangauge because of the price, but not having a trans temp gauge is a deal breaker.
     
  20. Mar 22, 2012 at 7:52 AM
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    Transmission temp, Scanguage yes, Ultraguage no. This is the main reason I went with the Scanguage. I do like the alerts on Ultraguage, Scanguage doesn't have them. Maybe I'll get the Ultraguage too.
     
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