Why no titanium skids?

Not going to do the math, but wanted to say you might not get what you expect. The OD will be the same but the ID will be different. This will change the moment of inertia. Same reason we don't use solid drives shafts.

 

I can only show up at the next JDM meet in shame. Although I have volks with titanium lugs, I wont have the burnt titanium skids and armor to go with it. What is life.

 

Its used a ton in aerospace just not as a welded product, they use it in machined parts and fasteners a lot.

 

How does that apply to skids?

You'd be better off with a modified Rockwell test that simulates a single point of a reasonable diameter with the 4 corners bolted down 1 foot away or so. Then seeing results such as overall psi before failure, elasticity on the z axis, a psi @ distance limit controlled height to simulate gap between skid and body.


A short member column compression yeild test won't show much.


Regarding chromoly, the application for that is because everything is live. The dynmaic loads on those items are intense. Also the same reason why wire selection is cruicial when welding the tubing together. Won't get into that. Welders already know. Just pointing out that deals more with the welds and movement, and a skid is just sitting there until a single (multiple) events.

 

Chem dipped to skids.


I'd 100% be in.

 

Anyone doing titanium nitride treatments? I think I would totally be down if I can get ahold of a quicksand Tacoma.

 

Right, the ID would be different. Since I don’t know what the ID would be for a comparable tube of titanium at that percent weight, I’m just specifying OD for the simulated slider “sample”. That press test is all I have at the moment that would be repeatable consistently. Sadly, I’m not a scientist with a baller ass facility. Titanium as far as I have seen in all other application apart from sliders was not as strong as chromoly.

 

My bad in my head I fuckin thought I was doing SLIDERS.


This whole time.

 

Haha no problem.


And no way in hell would I weld up Ti sliders. The amount of time to weld all that + wire would make it unreasonable very quick. Better off going on a diet and trimming stuff out of the cab to make up the weight

 

I understood the principal benefit of titanium to be it's melting point vs steel/aluminum, and it's ability to hold the strength at close to melting point.

Secondary is strength to weight mentioned above.

 

Titanium tends to spark if it comes across a material harder than it. So sliders would spark on some minerals/rocks... and in general when wheeling you don’t want to throw sparks.

 

Coat the titanium with Diamond and it won't spark except against diamond with +2 hardness skill.

 

No sorry, my original post had a YouTube video dropping a weight on various tubing, but didn't include titanium so I deleted it.

BTW, dunno if any of you follow my IG, I do machine a lot of gr5 titanium. Largest diameter round bar I carry is 3/4". But no tubing.

 

Where do you go off roading?

 

Titanium skids lol!!! They would be the best for sure, completely blows aluminum and cold roll out the water as far as breaking strength goes but someone explained to me before that you wouldn't get the stress factor from it.
In turn you would end up snapping bolts and smashing your skid into the bottom of the truck.
Besides see the price difference between cold roll and aluminum? Try triple the price of aluminum or more.
Not to mention you can only weld titanium in an enclosed environment.

 

I recall reading that the Russians have the market for Ti raw materials. I believe they have been screwing us for decades on price, which is why the cost is so ridiculous.

 

This was explained to me by one of the vendors, I forgot which one but it did make sense.
However if you want to get crafty you can weld inconel (5599) in strategic places.
It works well I highly recommend.

 

This is correct!

 

No this is not true, u might think so but it would crack as soon as u hit 1 rock.

 

Our company welds titanium and undergoes a thorough inspection for hairline cracks.
If your weld has a hairline crack it's going to fail.
As far as forming goes you need to heat it 800 degrees at least I think and you can only from against the grain.
And again needs to go thru a thorough inspection for cracking.
All in all to much money time and effort.
Vendors would never use it.