Why the 1st Gens are popular / hold their value

Not sure if you follow Scotty Kilmer on YouTube, but he has some pretty informative videos. I also like the fact that he has an mid 90's Toyota Celica.
The first couple of minutes of this video highlights what probably many of us have said at some point...."They don't make them like they use to".


Why Not to Buy a New Toyota
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgRFssTGffE

 

LOL.

 

Yup I can't stand that idiot!

 

I cant watch his vidoes either. Takes me 5 seconds and im done!

Less is usually better IMO. More electronic gadgets and gizmos usually do not help long term reliability, simplicity to work on your own truck, and value.

I could of bought a 3rd gen Tacoma, but wanted a more simple truck so I got a 2015. I did not want the lane change, automatic braking B.S.

 

It's a diminishing return. The early cars had next to nothing to fail but they would kill you in a crash, ran poorly if it was raining or you went up in altitude or it was Thursday and polluted pretty badly. I think cars hit their peak in the mid 1990s to maybe very early 2000s. They had dialed in mass production so there were very few mistakes and the cars were advanced enough to be reliable and perform well (I've had carbs and vacuum distributors with points - I really prefer EFI and electronic ignition 99% of the time) without being nannies. I actually think cars are made even better but they have grown too complex to be reliable long term. If they could make a 1989 Toyota Pickup with today's manufacturing ability it would probably literally run forever. But it wouldn't sell since it would be consider "outdated" and "crude".

 

James, that where I envy you man. You have the good ol regular throttle body, where on my '03 I have the APPS (Accelerator Pedal Position Sensor, front of TB). If that thing goes, it's a new throttle body which retails close to a grand!

 

I feel like the sweet spot was the 1st gen Tacoma. 3.4L is one hell of a reliable engine. I regret selling my 2004 4x4 TRD manual with 70k miles on it.

I feel the 2nd gen will fall in the same footsteps as the 1st gen as its still pretty simple to work on. But I highly doubt the 3rd gens will be sought after.

 

You mean plastic valve covers! Not sure if the 3.5L has a plastic one.

 

dealer salesguys keep wanting my keys and get me into a new tacoma every time i go there

my relatives 2o11 AT is developing a transmission leak already at ~45k miles
what do you think is the problem ???

 

Those 1970s and 1980s carb cars with all the vacuum emission crap were the worst of everything.

 

i mighta seen one of those old trucks out and about in my town during the blizzard whiteout in February
just me and them plowing up the snowy streets lol
it was hard to see though. it was probably a late 80s

tacos in snow is the best .... TITS

 

I bet they have swapped ignitions at least or may have converted to MSD perhaps. If they haven't already they will find that Toyota has long since discontinued accelerator pumps and choke pull-offs and ignitors for them. But more power to them, I preferred getting in and turning the key on my 22R-E over the '78 2F that preceded it. But then again I lived in a place with visual and tail pipe emissions testing so it wasn't possible to de-smog anything. Actually the '91 has been the vehicle that lasted me the longest and I did the least to maintain of all, which includes a 1956 Plymouth (literally zero emissions control), a 1983 Civic, 1978 FJ40, 1991 XtraCab pickup and now this 2008 Tacoma.

Most people I know with older Toyota trucks have more than one, too. They are working on one, driving the other.

 

OK, you're right.

 

I Love you

 

Yeah I can't pinpoint what it is about this Scotty guy except to say there's some sort of arrogance there that he tries to disguise with being funny?
Anyway, about the 1st-gens: mine is 18 years old and counting and never gave me a bit of extra trouble except the original water pump weeping at 20,000 miles.
I am assuming that some of the more complex components put into this Taco were "new tech" when they built it in 2001, and here we are 18 years later and no sign of anything failing yet. Matter of fact, everything still confidently operating as it did when new-so much for "planned obsolescence" Scotty.
I bought my '16 RX350 new. I paid cash for it. Why? Because I am putting faith in the idea that this Lexus will be with me a long damn time and incidentally, I'll still have the Taco with it. If I'm to heed what Scotty's saying, should I be scared that I bought myself a pile of trouble shortly down the line with the RX? And there's a shit-ton more complicated gadgets crammed into this RX than there is in the Taco-am I supposed to worry?
Well I'm not. I figure Lexus (Toyota) went to great lengths to precisely engineer, and overly build high quality into, this RX...especially this particular RX since this revised RX was the baby of the heads of Toyota and Lexus.

Beyond this though, there is the idea that does not get talked about much-that when our '01-'04s as well as the trucks before that, were built during a time of reasonable demand for them, and that period was much closer to the staunch standards and practices of Mother Japan.
Now? they can't build 'em fast enough PLUS the standards and best practices of our trucks' generation have I'm sure been diluted to a certain extent. So we 1st-genners are lucky we bought into this era of Tacos.
I remember, since I've been here since '08, reading the myriad of woes and problems that the 2nd-gens were having, that we 1st-gens never did.
Now the 3rd-gens are presenting lots of troubles all their own.
Hope I'm right about my RX....

 

So for the sake of conversation. How would one go about gutting the evap system? That's the one on the drivers side firewall correct.
2nd is that the same as the URD simulator?

 

I watched one of this dude's videos, well started to, a few years ago from a link someone shared. He said things that were actually untrue and inaccurate and so that combined with his personality defects(or chemical defects), I couldn't watch more than a couple minutes.
So this guy actually has a following???? W T F

 

My first was an 81 4x4 LWB ran great and I sold it before the 5th gear idle bearing went out( it came with 2 extra transmissions).
The second Toyota was a 74 HiLux, ran great- $650.00, had a wood frame shell on it and did real well in the snow. Never had any stranding type issues- just carried an extra set of points and a point file, drove it until it rusted in half.
After that it was an 84, that ran pretty good as well, I still see it running around Fairbanks occasionally.
The Taco, well it has had some issues but I expected that due to the low price, getting them ironed out one at a time, don't think i want anything newer.

 

For me, Not too big, metal bed

 

He may be right about new Toyotas, but in general, listening to Scotty is like taking advice from one of these guys.