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Why the hate for Rugged "Fails"

Discussion in 'Off-Roading & Trails' started by digitaLbraVo, Apr 18, 2013.

  1. Apr 19, 2013 at 7:47 PM
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    07COMA801

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    I dont like them because i had mine for 19.000 miles and they were sooooo bald, i mean yeah they got me where ever i needed and i never got stuck but they wore away soo fast that they are not worth the money IMO that is
     
  2. Apr 24, 2013 at 9:37 AM
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    I'm a pretty gentle driver (never had a speeding ticket, drive sanely), and I started out in the offroading scene on these tires. My trails were primarily mud, roots, and rocks with enough difficulty to require sliders, spotting, and some three-wheel motion, even among the experienced drivers.

    I was able to get through most everything, though it did require rear diff lock at times.

    At about 20k, the tires were getting down to the wear marks and I replaced them with Maxxis Bighorn MTs.

    On the same trails, I was now able to do them without the diff lock, and sometimes could get by with just 2WD. I did suffer some MPG. At 30k I ran over a railroad spike on a trail which nuked the tires. I was able to keep two of them, and they still had a good amount of tread.
     
  3. Apr 26, 2013 at 3:09 PM
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    I generally liked mine until we cross ~34k miles. They worked well on several multi-offroad excursions and I never experienced a situation where I wanted for traction. Granted, I never used them in any deep or slick mud. I found that they did well in fresh, dry snow. They did poorly in slushy, icy snow. They did, however, perform better than my MTs in snow.

    I also liked that they were relatively light for MPG concerns. But, once I crossed ~34k, I got repeated slow leaks. As said above, very thin tire.
     
  4. Apr 26, 2013 at 3:50 PM
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    My 09 had AT ko's, took the 13 trd offroad up a dry trail with deep ruts. Fails slipped right off the ridge into the ruts. After jacking and stacking rocks for two hours, I drove out. They suck offroad compared to the AT's.
     
  5. Apr 28, 2013 at 6:08 PM
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  6. Apr 28, 2013 at 8:56 PM
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    Same thing. Slightly wet road - spin and hydroplane. I decided never again after 2 very scary hydroplane incidents.
     
  7. May 11, 2013 at 2:10 PM
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    I got rid of mine after 12000 miles. Got suck pretty bad once with them. It turn out that where I got suck was a good thing , the guy that pulled me out of the mud said that the mud hole after that he had seen a chevy on 42's barried to the hood.
     
  8. Jun 6, 2013 at 5:14 PM
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    They've gotta be better than the General Grabber AW's that came on my truck. I've gotten one flat on a dirt road and have torn off a few lugs on each tire. I'm looking forward to them finally dieing so I can upgrade.
     
  9. Jun 6, 2013 at 5:18 PM
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    Seems the question should be - "Why would anyone want to run ruggedfails?"
     
  10. Nov 14, 2013 at 6:43 PM
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    When aired down the rugged trails preform pretty well. I air them down to 15psi and they tackle pretty much anything Ive thrown at them. Here is a picture of a hill that I've made it up with these tires.


    Mudding:
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    Rock steep hill, looks worse in person.
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  11. Nov 14, 2013 at 9:03 PM
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    I thought the same until I put on M/Ts and did the same trails. Often I only needed 2WD, and my diff locker use went down tremendously. If you get the chance, do the comparison, it's a pretty incredible difference.
     
  12. Nov 14, 2013 at 9:07 PM
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    My dad has them on his tundra. Lets just say he needed new tires with actual grip before he brought the truck new. They are called rugged fails because they fail at everything except on the pavement.
     
  13. Nov 14, 2013 at 11:12 PM
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    Your going to get better traction on any tire (even the bald ones) when airing down..

    I think price is a factor seeing how a BFG RT 265/70/16 start at about $150-$160 a tire new with 265/70/17" going for closer to $200 per tire..

    That's a lot of $$ for a stock tire that in its best day performance/wear were mediocre at best.. Theres better for cheaper out there..
     
  14. Nov 15, 2013 at 5:16 AM
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    I am looking into new tires as these were the ones on it when I bought it. I'm looking into getting new tires in about a year, hopefully something with a little more bite.

    But even still, I'm impressed with the hills this thing has climbed with these other wise terrible tires!
     
  15. Nov 15, 2013 at 8:35 AM
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    My crappy General Grabber AW's do better than expected when aired down too. But I know a set of decent AT's would do way way better. Also, I've found with the AW's when you do lose traction and the wheel spins it tears bits of rubber off the tiny lugs and makes them even tinier.
     
  16. Nov 24, 2013 at 1:36 PM
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    Go to any tire web site (1010tires, discount tire direct, etc) and look at the reviews of the Rugged Trails. They're pretty much universally hated. Seems like a lot of people have hydroplaning and winter traction problems with them, as well as poor tread wear.
     
  17. Nov 24, 2013 at 1:55 PM
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    I still have mine from when I bought the truck, have 22k miles on them, 21,500 of which are on pavement. For highway, they are nice, I have gotten 22mpg+ on occasions. In the rain I haven't experienced hydroplaning but then again NV doesn't get much, also I have had good handling in packed snow like you would see on pavement. Like any tire though they have issues with ice. I have had to put in 4-wheel to back out of a parking spot. For trails I have only done dry gravel and old mine roads, went fine. Wear is a bit quick though, I'd be happy to get to 30k but plan on changing to Duratracs at 25k.
     
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    on the interstate. Offroad only the first weekend I had the truck and then it just ran up and down the interstate to get me to work. That isn't very many miles for a blowout and they were all getting close to not passing inspection.

    I have Cooper Disco ATPs now that blow them away and aren't even LT C tires. And they are cheaper.
     
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