Wierd problem while filling up with gas

It's uncomfortable because movies have taught us that cigarettes ignite gasoline and gas tanks explode from a lit rag in the neck. Now if you have a developed fire already and cause a gas tank to BLEVE, you're now dispersing gasoline into the fire with dramatic effect. Different chain of events though.

 

I do like to go down some rabbit holes. Thought I passed the mic to you on our convo about cigarettes and gasoline?

 

I used the fire extinguisher to put out a burning car when I worked at the 76 station. I though I was gonna get a raise or something. The boss told me I should have pushed the damn car away from the pump and charged me for recharging the fire extinguisher.

 

Very true. Entertainment has taken over the truth.

 

Fair point!

 

That video is hilarious

 

You don't know -30 then, vehicles are not insulated. Also fuel is barely combustible at -30 or colder. Very little risk, as long as you understand what you're doing.

 

Yeah. I'm mostly curious if once the fire starts, GTFO or try to put it out. Sounds like there might be a chance to save it.

 

I was involved in an explosion of 55 gal paint thinner when I was younger. The fuel burns off quick, now just have to put out what caught fire. The initial vapor bomb is the problem... Still have scars 40 years later.

 

Yikes.

 

Yikes indeed. I was 15. One of those you don't forget.

 

My brother set his hands on fire at that age, still can't feel heat very well.

 

Oh yeah. It is amazing how strong memories can be.

 

I remember the first snow drivers so fondly... I almost wish I didn't have to drive around these idiots constantly.

 

Don't mean to be put down the women but they are the worst for filling up with the car running. Heat or cold it don't matter they just do it.
My brother in law who is a very educated ass hole lol has a habit of leaving the vehicle to go inside to pay for the gas and waits till pump stops then pays and goes back to his corvette and replaced the nozzle, cap and leaves. Well this one time he was with a friend and while inside his friend saw another car behind them waiting so he thought he would be the nice guys and moved the corvette out of the way and behold the nozzle was still in the tank lol. Short story he ripped the hose out of the pump station but lucky their is a safety that stops gasoline from running out or it would of been quite the nightmare if it didn't and some spark would of blown the station to hell. Any ways now we pay at the pumps so that broke that stupid ridiculous habit of his. just saying you never know when gasoline is involved.

 

Ummmmm... WHY???

 

Your truck is broken somehow if you're losing cabin heat that quick. Mine stays warm. And trust me.... I know -30 and well beyond.

 

it still amazes me how many collegiate-educated individuals firmly believe that gasoline liquid is flammable.

i'm just a high-school graduate moron, how is it that i can understand liquid density and flash points, but an extra 4 years of schooling doesn't get the science of the point across better?

gasoline liquid doesn't burn. gasoline vapors burn.


i do a lot of work with crews that replace gas pumps. most of the crews smoke. they've only got 2 fire stories, and both were during cutting operations above fuel vapor-- it was really the brushed electric sawzalls starting it. now that everything is brushless, they haven't had a problem since.

 

To be fair, we are getting into some specialized information. Very few things burn in a liquid or solid state, except some combustible metals like magnesium. Everything else must undergo a heating process until it hits it's flashpoint temperature, where it's molecules rise off the material and become interspersed with air. Gasoline does this down to about -45*F, diesel doesn't hit it until around 100*F, which is why it is more difficult to ignite in ambient temps.

Good to know your guys switched to brushless tools. I'd still be looking at the switch though, as the source of a parting arc. Also hopefully they have air monitors for low O2 levels if they are in any kind of depressed area. Cutting sparks are no joke. They can ignite a lot of materials.