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Will this work? Mixed lift vs complete Icon Stage 2

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by Coheed22, May 21, 2016.

  1. May 21, 2016 at 9:43 PM
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    Coheed22

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    Hey all! After lots of research on here, I've been considering going with the Icon stage 2 setup for my 11' TRD off road AC LB with Leer Topper. Been researching mixed lifts to try and get a lower price the Icon stage 2. What do you guys think of this setup? Will it work for me keeping in mind that I'll be doing light off roading when I go hunting or to the dunes? (nothing crazy.) Take a look and tell me what you think. Thanks for your input.

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  2. May 22, 2016 at 10:15 AM
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    Coheed22

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    Anyone please??
     
  3. May 22, 2016 at 10:21 AM
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    It looks like it should work! I did a similar thing with my lift. I pieced it together from various sources and saved about $50 or so. Looks like you've got all the components.
     
  4. May 22, 2016 at 10:22 AM
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    Thanks for the reply. Did you replace your UCA's or find that you needed to?
     
  5. May 22, 2016 at 10:23 AM
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    No, I'm running stock UCAs. I only went for ~2.5" lift so I wouldn't have that problem. If I went the full 3", I'd probably replace them.
     
  6. May 22, 2016 at 10:36 AM
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    Hey Justin.
    IMO, that looks like some pretty substantial components for light off-roading.
    Why are you not replacing the leafs all together?
     
  7. May 22, 2016 at 10:40 AM
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    Indeed! Specially with the topper on, add gear, dogs or what not and it'll bottom out with the stock leafpack even with the AAL.
     
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    No it won't.

    That's horrible information. Stop.
     
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  9. May 22, 2016 at 10:43 AM
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    DrFunker

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    Yeah, if it were me (I am 98% settled on my lift components), put the money toward a new leaf pack and back off on the shock components.
     
  10. May 22, 2016 at 10:44 AM
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    DrFunker

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    Even with a stock 2011 leaf pack?
     
  11. May 22, 2016 at 10:47 AM
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    Same pack I had. 900 lbs didn't hit the bump stops or bottom out. Just sagged a lot - and I drove it for an hour on the highway and another 20 minutes on city streets.

    My shell is heavy at 220 lbs. and with the stock leaf pack and AAL it only dropped one inch.

    It's not an ideal setup when you have w constant load like a shell, but it sure as shit isn't going to bottom out when you add a sub 200 lb shell and some gear. That is ridiculous.
     
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  12. May 22, 2016 at 10:48 AM
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    That's my point! I've been through too many leafpacks. Non TSB, TSB with icon AAL, TSB with icon no overload and always bottomed out with all my gear, light off-roading.
     
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    I agree on the shocks being overkill and the AAL being the wrong choice.

    Even if you keep the shocks, just get a single leaf AAL instead of the 3 leaf. It's a stronger setup.
     
  14. May 22, 2016 at 11:09 AM
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    I thought about just the progressive aal's because I have the tow package and want to maintain tow capacity. If i went with the dakars and just scraped the old leafs, would I still have the 6300 pound or more tow cap? Plus I have a topper, so I'm concerned about extra weight in the back as well.
    I want a good setup like Icons I guess because i'm thinking long term and want to do it right. I plan on keeping this truck for life and like that they are rebuildable and adjustable.
     
  15. May 22, 2016 at 11:10 AM
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    Personally I like minipack's better than single leaf AAL's. That's what I have on mine and it has been going strong for close to 4 years and miles and miles worth of beatdowns.

    Then again I don't have a shell, it may be a different story if he does.
     
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    Just a matter of constant load carrying needs.

    The 3 leaf is softer than a single AAL, and if you follow the instructions and remove the overload leaf at install you weaken your pack even further.

    But all things the same, the 3 leaf is a nicer ride because it's so soft. When I added a shell to mine though, my ride got a little worse and I lost half the lift it gave without the shell weight.

    A single would've been stronger and probably rode a little better under that weight. They're a little stiffer on a stock truck, but like all things, more weight = softer ride.
     
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    Should I just go with the Icon Stage 1 then and get a whole new leaf pack in the rear? I noticed the stage 2 icon is rated up to a 0-3.5" lift while the stage 1 only went form 0-3". I also plan on putting an aftermarket bumper and winch when I have the extra funds down the road.
     
  18. May 22, 2016 at 12:12 PM
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    Ahh...okay. More information. This is good.
    So you are planning to add extra weight eventually? Will most of it be up front? Or are you going to add in the back too?
    I do like the ICONs too. They seem like they are built very well and I like the rebuild aspect.
    I had them on my list when I started out, but then came to the conclusion that for what I am going to do with my truck (mainly overland, camping, trails, logging roads, etc.) I changed up to Bilstein 6122/5160 (maybe 5125)/Dakar.
    I am thinking this set up because I can put the $ in to other areas of the truck.
    Check out Headstrong. Marie has been super patient and helpful with my stuff.
    There are lots of knowledgeable members here too. I am a noob with this stuff, but am always willing to share what I have learned.
    All the best.
     
  19. May 22, 2016 at 1:10 PM
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    Yeah I think I've decided to go with the Icon stage 1 and get the ome dakars for the rear to handle to extra weight of my leer shell and all of my gear, plus an enclosed 6x12x6 trailer I haul around occasionally. Sounds like you're application is very similar to mine as in what you're using your truck for except I'm in Oregon.
    I still don't know why the Icon Stage 1 only gets you 3" in the front compared to the Stage 2 which gets you up to 3.5" of lift. I would like to think I want that extra half inch of lift but I'm sure I won't. Just curious where the difference is. Thanks for the info!
     
  20. May 22, 2016 at 1:22 PM
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    Ahh see, I kept my overload in. I never saw a sense in removing it as the strength factor would have decreased like you said. A decision I still don't regret to this day. Lol.
     

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