Windows 10 is here

Mine works for a while, then effs up when they put updates on. Then it works for a while when they put a fix on to fix the updates. Then it screws up again.

 

They keep right on doin' it

http://tech.slashdot.org/story/16/0...sday-brought-windows-10-ad-generator#comments

 

Of course; they are losing money trying to support and patch three (four if you count Vista which I think still gets support). It would make thinks a lot cheaper for them if everyone ran Win10.

 

This is true.

Also I blame nVidia for my driver issues. It's not like Microsoft is hiding something that they don't know how to code for.

 

I don't mind NVidia. I prefer their driver support over ATI (which I've used and hated), even with the Vista driver debacle.

 

Aren't most windoze releases a flop lately?

10 still having issues connecting to stuff like printers not working with it?

 

I have two printers (cannon and HP) installed on mine with no issues. Both were installed with Win 8 pre upgrade to 10.

I will say, privacy concerns out the window, on my Surface 3, win 10 beats win 8. On my desktop, Ill stick with win 7 but I can't stand that annoying win 10 reminder every 5 seconds. For fuck sake!

 

Agreed. The only reason I bought nVidia this time around was because of the drivers historically being much better than ATI/AMD.

 

My printer work as well.

At least windows OS won't kill my SSD in one to two years. Every OS has it's flaws.

 

I have a 27" iMac so don't need it Wife has Win 7 on her Dell desk top and doesn't want to change to 10 or iMac. Have dell desktop with 10 on it that I upgraded last Summer when it fires came out. Grandkids use it to play their games on along with 2 laptop with 7 on them. Had to do some work on wife computers and I have forgotten how to solve problems on it. I have gotten spoiled with the iMac never crashes or has problems upgrades go smoothly. Soon I will get wife a iMac and switch her over. We both have iPads and Iphone so don't need laptops when we travel. Whenever I take a picture with my phone it ends up on my mac and ipad and I can text or or talk for any of them. It is just a lot less hassle now with Windows.

Tom

 

Wow, I've never heard someone tell me how awesome Mac is and how they never have problems.

I've owned two iMacs. I won't go back. If you want to know why PM me.

 

The new nVidia driver I downloaded today seems to of fixed the issues I was having.

To clarify the issue I was having was a slight stagger every 5 seconds with AA turned all the way up on some older games. It wasn't even noticible doing things like email browsing.

For fun I went and checked out an iMac today. For the cost of one of those I could throw a 980 GTX in my computer and buy a new TV for my living room. Plus that iMac wouldn't be able to run any of the games I like. Still a pass, even if the quality has come up a bit which is difficult to tell.

 

Oh, look, here's my shocked face

http://news.slashdot.org/story/16/0...rting-automatically-on-windows-7-pcs#comments

 

It's not surprising. Honestly, like you're saying, it's not hard to see why Microsoft wants to do this or to of seen their motives long ago. It's costing them money to keep up 7 support and it costs them even more when people refuse to run Windows 10 on their new machines.

Take a user like either of us. Both of us regularly install and uninstall our OS. I even have 2 copies of windows 7 I can move about from PC to PC if I wanted to. Every time I do that I circumvent buying more Microsoft keys and it ticks them off. These are the people they seem to not care about. The people who benefit from freedom of use and technical know how. Honestly, will they lose these people? Probably not, considering most of the popular gaming hardware and software is designed for their machines it kind of places people between a rock and a hard place.

Not to mention the fear of having Windows 7 corporate users consider something else. They want the big office companies to upgrade and buy all those shiny new licenses for corporate use. OKAY BEFORE SOME MAC FANS GET RAGING HARDONS THINKING THIS MEANS COMPANIES WOULD GOT THAT WAY... WRONG. It's much more likely they would cater a Linux release to their liking and keep Windows on the machines they need to have windows on. Mac flat out sucks in the average business environment. You can't even get half of the programs or peripherals to run remotely properly on Mac which makes it less desirable to large companies with 100's of computer to support. At least in Linux you can write your own fixes easily.

It's not just Windows they are doing this with either. This generation of Office is basically spamware for Office 365. Why charge people one fairly small fee when you can collect a small fee over their entire lifetime just for Office access. In one way I like it because it is nice knowing you will always have the latest and greatest office, which does matter to my household with a legal secretary and sales representative at home. In another I'm sick knowing one of the most commonly used programs I have now costs me money per month like a cellular phone.

 

I could, tonight, do a clean (from original MS media) install of an OS on fresh hardware going back to WfW311. And every single version since. And this is just me personally....not my work accounts, my 'at the office' logins, etc.

But the difference is...what they're doing now with 10 is well over above above what they've done before, and what is OK by any stretch of the imagination. They were some flavor of asshole/evil before, but this shit? This is so over the top it isn't even funny.

I've always been a guy that supported Windows at work but only used it at home for gaming. Now I'm using my free time at work to show my coworkers how to get off the MS train all together and still keep our FDIC certs. It's a bitch, but it can be done.

Even 8.x, while I disliked, I could abide. This shit? Nope. HELL nope.

 

So you're going over to what then? Just curious.

AFAIK it's a bitch to game on Linux. Mac is a joke too considering they don't even make a tower anymore that you can easily swap in flashed cards too.

 

Native linux machines for my devs....mostly Ubuntu or derivatives (lots of Mint). They have VMs of MS crap for when they need to test certain OS platforms. The few servers remaining are transitioning to linux if they aren't already without telling anyone. I think I'm down to 3 windows server chassis total, natively. The rest are all VMs of some flavor on a different hypervisor.

The user end is where it gets bitchy. The bank side has thankfully listened and universally blocked 10s advancement. But they're still running 7 and 8 workstations, and getting around all of the 'security blanket' software they have in addition to the base OS is where I spend most of my time.

 

Yeah, like I said I can see Linux for work. It's been a few years since I played with Linux but I know it's able to dance in many different ways and have a lot of flexibility to do what you may need.

 

Yup. The general office-level peeps are the problem.

I could have them all up on a Mint VM tomorrow if I wanted. And, honestly, most of them I could actually have working mostly normally in a day or two.

But for fucks sake...one of our clients is a BoA sub. That we have to use an 11 year old VBS script running on a VM of a Vista workstation from 2006. Because one of the bidding processes that they use cannot accept data in another format. Period.

And despite a dozen attempts since that time, you simply cannot do it a a machine with anything newer than Excel 2003 spreadsheet with a specific version of VBS support installed on it....and never ever ever patched past it.

I don't mean to scare you....but they did 9 digits in sales with that VM last fiscal year.

 

It doesn't surprise me lol.