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Windows 10 is here

Discussion in 'Technology' started by Newlife, Jul 30, 2015.

  1. Aug 10, 2015 at 6:39 PM
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    That was my original thought when I first tried to install. I'm using Norton Security so I disabled it's firewall. Then I went into Windows Firewall which said it was being controlled by Norton. So, believing the software firewall was down I tried again. That didn't work.

    The ONLY thing that changed was installation of Windows 10. No changes in settings on the router, printer, etc.

    The Windows 10 driver from the HP site is the same driver for Win 7/8. So perhaps the fact that they didn't actually write a new driver could play into this. Driver version 28.8 released August 17th, 2014. :(
     
  2. Aug 10, 2015 at 6:45 PM
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    If you have an older nvidia chipset and you aren't used to grabbing drivers online 10 was a PITA. I have a 690 GTX and my wifes school computer I cobbled together has a 610 GT. Both wouldn't function with the installed 7 or 8.1 drivers and required a manual download to work. Not hard for even the mildly computer literate but my wife did the upgrade while I was at work on her computer and was convinced her second screen was broken and windows 10 was in default "old lady "mode :D

    My wifes laptop also required a manual download of an Asus beta driver to get her track pad working. If she was alone without me for technical support I'm sure she would of reverted but now she loves 10.
     
  3. Aug 10, 2015 at 6:47 PM
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    lol Yeah I actually downloaded the Win 10 drivers for everything on my system before I bothered to download Win 10. Had a folder on a secondary hard drive with the chipset drivers, audio drivers, GPU, printer, etc. I prefer to install Windows and then install everything. Glad I did because my networking I don't believe worked with Win 10 natively at first. Once I installed the Win 10 LAN driver from Gigabyte all was well.
     
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    I have 5 computers available in the house. 2 laptop's, 2 desktops, and an old netbook. I also like installing the drivers afterwards too so I just used a netbook and USB key as necessary.

    What's hilarious is that the old netbook was the only PC to take 10 and not have any issuses :rofl:
     
  5. Aug 10, 2015 at 6:52 PM
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    This doesn't surprise me though! Didn't Microsoft claim Win 10 would be their smoothest transfer over multiple platforms? There are only so many tablets/netbooks out there. Much smaller pool to write code for. Where as desktops and laptops have so many different chipsets that could possibly be in them.

    What impressed me, after I was forced to reinstall Win 7 in order for the Win 10 download to actually work, was how easy the upgrade/install was. It was quick and smooth and didn't ask me 100 questions to get it set up.
     
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    So driver issues....how old are the machines you're dealing with? My HP laptop is 6 or 7 months old. Can't remember all of the specs at the moment...should I be worried? I fear change
     
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    Nah. If anything quickly double check that there are drivers available for all your hardware on HPs website.

    My laptop is 4 years old, hers is 8 months old, my tower is 1-5 years old (incremental upgrades), her tower is 1-7 years old (cobbled together from spares I carry so she could have a school desktop with dual screens), and the netbook that worked with no issues is 7 years old with an SSD upgrade.
     
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    Should be as simple as going to HP's website and finding the support page for your laptop model. Then look under drivers. It'll generally ask what version of Windows you're running. If it automatically detects your current Windows you can generally click somewhere to change the Windows version. Then it's just a matter of downloading the Windows 10 drivers they have available (assuming they do) and storing them on a USB thumb drive so you can install them after Windows 10 is installed.
     
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    The older hardware is better. The driver support for old shit they built in is absurd. I've got laptops in the 5-8 YEAR old range that run it without a hiccup or even me downloading drivers.
     
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    You know the printer IP?

    Open up the cmd prompt again and type

    ping x.x.x.x

    Where x.x.x.x is the IP of the printer.
     
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    Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.10240]
    (c) 2015 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

    C:\Users\TacomaLover>ping 192.168.0.104

    Pinging 192.168.0.104 with 32 bytes of data:
    Reply from 192.168.0.104: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=255
    Reply from 192.168.0.104: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=255
    Reply from 192.168.0.104: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=255
    Reply from 192.168.0.104: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=255

    Ping statistics for 192.168.0.104:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

    C:\Users\TacomaLover>
     
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    I'll check later, thanks

    hmmm...wonder if I should wait a bit . Give everyone a chance to release more stable driver updates.
     
  13. Aug 10, 2015 at 7:14 PM
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    I wouldn't.

    Even if you have an issue and need a manual driver update, most of the hardware vendors have them up on their site. 10 has been in the works a WHILE, and there aren't many surprises between MS and Dell (or insert OEM vendor here)

    If you don't wanna try it, stick with 7 or 8/8.1

    If you do, go for it.

    Just BACK YOUR SHIT UP FIRST

    Never, ever, ever, ever, EVER do something like an OS upgrade without a manual, updated backup that you have verified of your shit first.
     
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    LOL Or do like me... nothing important installed on the OS drive to begin with. ;)

    Example:
    C:\Windows
    E:\Storage - photos, videos, files, etc
    F:\SSD for Games, etc
     
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    I do the same. My C is an 850 series Samsung SSD, for OS and games ONLY

    I've got 5 TB in spindle drives as E & F for storage for exactly this reason. If I hose my Winders, I go 'meh' and reinstall from scratch. Takes me an hour plus Steam/Blizz/MWO download time. I can lose the system drive and be gaming that evening, even after a full day at the office
     
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    Probably a driver issue. You can ping it so it isn't a network issue. I'd delete the printer if it is still listed as a device. Then try to re-add it using the printer installation instructions. You should be able to just add a network printer by IP and let windows find the best driver. Or you may just need to go into devmgmt.msc, uninstall the printer driver, then scan for changes and let windows find the best driver for the printer. I had to do the same thing for my sound card. Start with reinstalling the driver. If that fails, delete the printer and re-add it by IP.
     
  17. Aug 10, 2015 at 7:21 PM
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    Yep. I've got a 64Gb SSD for my OS. Then two SSDs for my games. And a 1TB WD Black Caviar for primary storage of essentials.
     
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    I already went into HP's setup program and re-installed by IP. And then set my router to reserve that IP for the printer's MAC ID. So I'm all good. It's working fine now. But it's annoying I had to do that at all.
     
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    Could be worse.. You could have had to completely reinstall windows instead of doing an upgrade.
     
  20. Aug 10, 2015 at 8:06 PM
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    I had to do both with one of my laptops.

    I swapped in an SSD and installed windows 10 clean. Wouldn't take any product key...7, 8, 8.1, or 10 (from the same laptop with an upgrade installed).

    I had to rip the new SSD out, put in the old spindle drive with 8.1 still on it, run the upgrade and record the product key in Win 10. Then swap back to the SSD and use that key to activate the 'new' Win 10 install.

    The best part is, it STILL hasn't worked, but at least now I know it's the MS activation servers being the problem by the error code
     

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