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Winter tires

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by Korby, Nov 13, 2021.

  1. Nov 25, 2021 at 8:48 AM
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    eurowner

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  2. Nov 25, 2021 at 10:23 AM
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    i'm curious how many miles on their tires those with Blizzaks or Nokians get. i assume it must vary quite a bit with road conditions/how warm their winter is, etc.
     
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  3. Nov 25, 2021 at 10:30 AM
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    I ran Blizzak DMv1 from 2013 to 2020 so seven winters, roughly 5000k each season, so around 35,000 miles. When I replaced them they probably had two or three 'ok' seasons left.

    Replaced them with DMv2 and ready for another 8 years..
     
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  4. Nov 25, 2021 at 4:46 PM
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    Similar to others, I bought a TPMS tool and some Schrader EZ Sensors.
    Cloned the stock sensor IDs into the new sensors.
    The TPMS tool I bought was the ATEQ VT36, just because I'm planning on doing something similar with my motorcycles, so I can have a set of "hot spare" tires sitting around and there are only a few tools compatible with my bike.
     
  5. Nov 25, 2021 at 4:53 PM
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    I don't know how many kilometers but I am on my fourth winter with my Hakkapeliitta SUV R2's. The centre rib has the 32nds molded into the tread block. The 8/32nds is still nice and clear so still lots of life in them.

    Edit: They are usually on for about 4½ to 5 months a year.
     
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  6. Nov 25, 2021 at 6:18 PM
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    Usually get 30K-40K out them, though the second season after being new, they don’t feel like they are biting the same, then it goes downhill from there.

    This go around I may sell at the end of the season, then buy new next. Thinking with snow tires you want them fresh as possible. Where a regular tire you can let it go until the tread wear warranty is up, since conditions aren’t as severe.
     
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  7. Nov 25, 2021 at 9:44 PM
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    I replace my blizzaks every 2-3 years and resell the old tires. Keeps the cost down and you get the best performance out of the tread. Win-win
     
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  8. Nov 26, 2021 at 2:33 PM
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    Too late now I bought mine here are the Pirelli Scorpion All Terrain Plus 265/70R16's 112T Tires. $150.00 Ea will be here Dec 1st. Also bought new Black Steel slotted Rims for them. That way the Originals are on the Factory Rims and Snow Rated on the Slotted Rims. Wanted the Winter Rating and a Deeper Chunky Tread. These are Run Flat Rated so my wife won't have to fix a flat on the side of the road. One place wanted $310.00 each for the tires had to go down the road. Bought 4 Rims and 4-Sensors for the savings. The tires have a 50,000 mile Warrantee best I could find. Did a lot of reading and for the money I like these. They will come off around May when the snow is leaving for Spring here. Here is a picture of the Tire on another rim and a picture of the Rims I bought. TOY Tires.jpg
    Pirelli Scorpion All Terrain Plus vs Falken WildPeak A/T3W (tirewheelguide.com)
     
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  9. Nov 29, 2021 at 11:13 AM
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    Dilemma here.. just got a 22 dclb or to replace my 03 xtracab. While living in MT I have always ran AT tires on the 03 during the winter and I am debating on either getting a set of blizzaks for the 22 or upgrading to 265/75/16 wildpeaks or ATXs on the new rig. I feel down the road if I went blizzaks I’d have to upgrade the stock Goodyear’s due to the amount of dirt roads I am on. Any thoughts?
     
  10. Nov 29, 2021 at 11:21 AM
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    Another Duratrac lover here. No more switching over tires twice a year, now I just do a tire rotation once a year
     
  11. Nov 29, 2021 at 11:39 AM
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    The reason for me to have 2 sets is the winter tires last a long time if you only use them on the snowy time of the year. That way the tread stays at the MAX Traction for many more years. Not so concerned about the Summer time with wear but they also last many more years with good tread too. Now if you don't have 5 months of winter snow and ice your choice may be different then me. That is why reading what others say is pretty much for there area not mine. They may want to go off road and tear up the tires more wanting harder rubber. I go off road just driving to town for 5 miles each time then onto winding roads with shaded areas people slide off on forgetting it is always icy there. After 25 years of driving the same 24 miles of remote road I know what my truck and car needs and others have figured out what they need. I have drove on bald tires too and got home!! I like staying on the road in slush that is so un predictable when the plow screws up a good road base to clear it off. Coming around the corner at a normal speeds and wow the road now sucks!! Not pulling the Old man stuff but have been driving off road and living in the country for about 50 years now. During that time have heard a lot of stories about what gives the best traction and been stuck a few times to. Have raced my truck off road in the past against others. Been on 2 wheels both sideways and front end off the ground going up hill. Had all the tires off the ground 3-4 ft in the air and raced Baja's. Now I just enjoy driving but my butt knows what loosing traction feels like still even at 70years old! I did leave off I have rolled a few too and walked away one reason I wore seat belts before they were in cars!!
     
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  12. Jan 20, 2022 at 5:44 AM
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    Put a set of Pirelli Scorpion AT Plus LT265/70/17 on 2019 DCSB Sport in November. Very good in the snow and handle nicely in dry conditions. Very quiet as well.
     
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  13. Jan 20, 2022 at 7:07 AM
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    I'd like to amend on this.

    This year, it seems like I went through the studs completely. Now they feel like AT tires and not winter tires. It's was my 6th winter on them anyway, so I guess I'll look for something else for next winter.
     
  15. Mar 2, 2022 at 5:32 AM
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    I never run studs only Winter rated Tires great traction this year with Pirellis Scorpion's mine come off soon as my new rims get here around the end of the week!

    TOY Tires.jpg

    TACO1.jpg
     
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    +1 on the scorpions.
     
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    Hey Jeff (and anyone else with experience),
    just wanting to pick your brain about your tires. I run P285/70/17s on my truck. Blizzak DMV-1s need replacing. The only tire in a 285 that is really a top tier winter is the Hakka's in the LT3 form. The 285 is a D-rated tire and the 265/70/17 is an E-rated tire. The Blizzak is a P-rated tire. Both the Blizzak and the LT3 are 45-ish pounds, BUT the plys are way different (the LT3 being a 10 ply). I'm wondering what size you got, what PSI you run, and if the ride characteristics changed dramatically? Being Canadian, as well, I'm not wanting to lose teeth over the frost heaves and pot holes in Edmonton. It was recommended that I not run the LT3 below 35 pounds. The P-rated I run at 29, so there is another factor that could cause a really stiff ride, which I am not looking for.

    My alternative choices are the Blizzak DMV-2 (which they stopped making in a 285, so 265/70/17 is my only option), the Hakka 10 (studded or non-studded) and the new Hakka R5 SUV in 265/70/17. Yes, I am thinking about the aesthetics of the sizes. I have coil overs and air in the rear, so I'm sitting a little over 3 inches in lift (with adjustable UCAs and custom alignment). I rolled a 265/70/17 out at Kal Tire the other day and put it beside mine. Obviously, one wasn't under load, but it was 1/2 inch difference in overall height and skinnier, of course. My wheels are -12 offset, so it still looked okay for stance.

    Has anyone gone from a 285 to a 265, in the same aspect ratio and noticed a big difference in the look of the truck? I can lower the air in the back, but not the front and don't want a huge gap in the wheel wells (although, 1/2 inch "seems" negligible). I, kinda, want my cake and eat it too... I've searched 285 vs 265, but never found a great side by side reference.

    Thanks all!!!

    Barrett
     
  19. Nov 17, 2022 at 1:12 PM
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    Kind of a little hijack here, but definitely related.
    Guy about 80 miles from me has Blizzaks DM v2s on the Taco black steels for 500. But hes already used them for 2 winters, so that probly anywhere bw 10-15k miles. From what Ive read, the softer compound tread on the Blizzaks which is really the main feature of them and what makes them so great as a winter tire is basically used up by 15k. Is this true? I have seen there is 2 tread indicators on them, 1 where the softer compound Im referring to is gone at 6/32? maybe 5/32...forgot. And the usual 2/32 mark whcih is where all tires are shot as you all know.
    So Im interested in them as they are already on the correct wheels that I would like to use for winter. But if the most useful part of the tread, that 15k that I keep hearing about, is almost gone. Then I might only be able to get 1 winter out of them which is kind of a bad purchase IMO.
    So is it true about that 15k "optimal" lifespan? Or do you guys run them longer? And if so, hows the performance?
    And this is subjective of course, but if I can only get 1 winter out of them, isnt 500 a bit high? Id think maybe 300?
    Just looking for some advice here as Ive never had Blizzaks.
     
  20. Nov 17, 2022 at 1:39 PM
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    Blizzacks are awesome tires.
    I use them on the wife’s suby and it’s amazing in the winter.
    If Tires are stored in shade at 10-15k they should be good to go!
    My wife never understood the whole tire thing until she had shitty tires and I swapped them for blizzacks.
    She gets it now so I have a blank check when getting tires :thumbsup:
     
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