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Wisconsin Tacomas and bad financial advice

Discussion in 'Mid West' started by Thatbassguy, Dec 19, 2008.

  1. Nov 26, 2023 at 7:19 AM
    Pixeltim

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    With all the cordless tools these day, nobody really needs much power in the garage anymore.
     
  2. Nov 26, 2023 at 7:20 AM
    Thatbassguy

    Thatbassguy [OP] Sweet or sour?

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    Ok. In order to have a worthwhile electric heater in the garage, you'll have to run at least 10awg Romex back to the panel. But, for the King 7.5KW, you'd need 8/2 and a 40 amp breaker. And, this is dependant on your panel having space for a 2-pole breaker.

    This still might be easier than a gas heater, though, as you'll probably still want a dedicated circuit for the fan (probably only 15 amps, though).
     
  3. Nov 26, 2023 at 7:23 AM
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    legible if zoomed in

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  4. Nov 26, 2023 at 7:24 AM
    Thatbassguy

    Thatbassguy [OP] Sweet or sour?

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    Depends on your needs. I'd probably want a dedicated 100 amp sub-panel if I were building a proper garage/workshop. Think about welders, air compressors, tablesaw, etc. But, for regular use, a 20 amp outlet circuit is probably sufficient for most people.
     
  5. Nov 26, 2023 at 7:27 AM
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    Pffft, all you need are battery chargers for your Milwaukee collection! Aren’t all those tools available in cordless these days?
    I only need the power from one extension cord to run my workshop!
     
  6. Nov 26, 2023 at 7:31 AM
    Thatbassguy

    Thatbassguy [OP] Sweet or sour?

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    Yeah, that's full and you already have some tandem breakers. You could put the (4) 20 amp circuits on the right in tandem breakers to make room, or add a sub-panel. Could be a bit of a strain if you decide to use the range, do laundry, and run the heater at the same time. But, I think you'd be fine.
     
  7. Nov 26, 2023 at 7:32 AM
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    Thatbassguy [OP] Sweet or sour?

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    Cordless welder? :rofl:

    And, there's not a cordless air compressor I'm aware of that can replace a proper floor standing unit.
     
  8. Nov 26, 2023 at 7:36 AM
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    Ok, so I taunt a bit….

    I find it interesting that you suggest he do exactly the same setup you put in my basement workshop. It does everything I need and still has room for expansion. It’s perfect. Even better yet, it didn’t break the bank!
     
  9. Nov 26, 2023 at 7:40 AM
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    Milwaukee makes a cordless one I use every year for woolwax. It’s probably more than enough for most people unless you are running air tools but who does that when you can be running m18 tools that are way better?
     
  10. Nov 26, 2023 at 7:41 AM
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    I'll always recommend more power!:bananadance:
     
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    Binford tool guy!
     
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    Sure, those are probably suitable for small tasks. But, I know some people like to use compressed air for blowing dust off of things, auto detailing, etc. That tiny little tank isn't going to be sufficient for that.

    As far as actual tools, I agree. I can't really think of any air tools I would really use as opposed to cordless at this point.
     
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    The pancake is in the shed for pumping up tires.
    The stand up is in the garage. Used mostly for blowing out the irrigation lines in the fall.
    Pancake has enough pressure but I need the volume for the lines.
     
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    That just gave me another retirement job idea.
    They charge over $200 to blow out a sprinkler system.
    $50 in cost. $150 in profit.
    10/day × 30 days = 300
    300 × $150 = $45k profit
    rough figures
     
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    Well…
    My father in law has this welder, it’s not cordless, but easily could be. The electrode is thinner than a toothpick!
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  16. Nov 26, 2023 at 12:06 PM
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    Two air tools that aren't getting replaced any time soon by cordless would be an air hammer/chisel and a needle scaler. Sand blasters also take a ton of air. I have a 60 gallon upright and it can barely just keep up with those sorts of things.
    ^ This 100%. You can never have enough. I ran my own sub panel 100 feet away to my detached garage so I could have the 240V circuits. I still have to be very careful what else is running on all circuits when I turn on the welder. I think I have more power than most and I still need more power.
     
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    I eagerly await the day that Milwaukee creates an air hammer equivalent.
    I would've needed a snorkel to use that last time I was stuck lol
     
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    I know we are talking about needing welders and proper air compressors and there is a good reason to have those on hand in a proper shop. I did see an interesting video where someone built a small wood working shop that was powered entirely on solar to charge tool batteries along with a battery and a sizable inverter to run things like a table saw.

    From an efficiency standpoint compressed air is a horrible expense. There is only like a 2% return on the energy put into compressing the air to start with. That said if you need it you need it.
     
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    CygnusX191 Gangster of Boats

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    So. Many. Stickers.
    But if you were the guy doing recovering you'd earn a ton of cool points for this.

    Like .... Ten at least
     

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